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Has anyone had anti-reflux surgery?

Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:11 pm
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:11 pm
I've had this for about a year and a half now and it's only getting worse. I don't have heartburn so much as a sour stomach most days (especially when empty), a burning throat, regurgitation, and a bitter taste in mouth. I'm constantly drinking water to wash the taste out of my mouth and to soothe my mouth/throat

Doesn't seem to matter what I eat as my symptoms are worse on an empty stomach. I even seem to have better luck eating a large fatty meal that sits in my stomach longer.

Right now I'm sitting at my desk feeling like I'm about to puke not because I'm nauseous but because I can literally feel stomach contents in my throat.

Just want to nip this in the but I'm afraid it'll be a waste of time and money to attempt surgery.

No other alternatives though as the medication only decreases the burning sensation.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:12 pm to
My buddy did. Made his life so much better,
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:13 pm to
all i can tell you is that if you suffer from AR you need to constantly monitor and treat it b/c if you don't, you're at risk for esophageal cancer. my dad went from basically eating normally to not being able to drink water within 2-3 weeks and then died in another 3 weeks. the most likely culprit was his lack of treatment of his AR
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
464 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:13 pm to
I did. Definitely worth it. Also, long term acid reflux can cause cancer cells to form in the esophagus.
Posted by Pistols Firing 12
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2016
1195 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:17 pm to
My Uncle did and he said it has made his life much better. Would recommend it!
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:23 pm to
Was it the Nissen? There are other somewhat less ominous procedures that exist but they are not usually covered by most insurance providers.

I really like the Linx procedure which is relatively new but promising. It's heavily encouraged by the surgeon who invented the scale for the Bravo/Ph studies as the first line of defense when diagnosed with reflux. It's a magnetic band that fits around your esophagus. If it doesn't work or makes you miserable, you can have it removed.

If you react badly to the side effects of a nissen, it would take a skilled surgeon to remove it.

I have also heard of the nissen loosing effectiveness over time and not being able to burp/throw up.

I had reflux tests performed back in 2017 and while my esophageal PH was low enough to indicate reflux, my LES was normal. Given that all the reflux procedures are designed around strengthening the LES, I'm worried that surgery would not do anything for me. My problem seems to be that my LES relaxes more often than does a normal person. Still, it would seem that any procedure designed to make it harder for the valve to open would lessen these relaxations.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:24 pm to
I've had esophageal dialation twice.
Heartburn for so long it cause me to have scar tissue in my esophagus. Got to where it couldn't comfortably swallow food and couldn't sleep at night if my stomach was empty. It made a world of difference in comfort but I still have to take heartburn meds daily. Has been under control for 5 years now.
It's definitely worth it.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:31 pm to
If you don’t correct it, it could erode your esophagus and then you’d really be for some discomfort. Doesn’t seem like a waste of time or money to me.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6042 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

BulldogXero


Nexium doesn't work for you?
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Nexium doesn't work for you?


I've tried Prilosec, Nexium, and Protonix (prescription dose). While it takes care of the "heartburn" aspect of reflux for the most part, I still have the nasty taste, burning throat, and sometimes breakthrough heartburn.

"heartburn" though has thus far never been a major symptom of mine although it is becoming more prevalent.
Posted by corym52
Member since Jul 2007
721 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:45 pm to
I was having heartburn pretty regularly and read that having too much sugar can cause it. Sure enough, I cut back sugar intake and now rearely have heartburn.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:14 pm to
My cousin had it, she WAS a neurosurgeon, and the physician accidentally cut the nerve that controls the muscle that closes that area to keep the acids down (my layman's description)

She nearly died they had to close the pipe with graph and left a hole only the size of a grain of rice for her to be able to get finely blended meals down into her stomach.
It took years but shes made a decent recovery, but obviously professional life ruined...and much of her personal.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

My cousin had it, she WAS a neurosurgeon, and the physician accidentally cut the nerve that controls the muscle that closes that area to keep the acids down (my layman's description) She nearly died they had to close the pipe with graph and left a hole only the size of a grain of rice for her to be able to get finely blended meals down into her stomach. It took years but shes made a decent recovery, but obviously professional life ruined...and much of her personal.


well that's encouraging
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
464 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:53 pm to
I had the nissen 3 years ago. I wanted to get the Linx, but my stomach hernia was too big. The worst thing was the swallow test that had to be done before surgery.
I have thrown up twice since having the surgery. The first time, I was scared I screwed it up. The second time was this past weekend - a combination of some beer and too much food. Your stomach is smaller after surgery, so you cannot eat as much. You also have to slow down and take smaller bites. I can burp now, but I remember it being difficult months after surgery.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19318 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:55 pm to
you gonna get the cancers if you don't
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18467 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:00 pm to
Eat a more alkaline diet. I had AR many years ago. Worked for me
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:16 pm to
I know it gets mentioned a lot, but go keto for a month or two before doing surgery and see how it helps. Many people mention great things about it and reflux relief. You even mentioned that eating fatty foods made things better. At the worst, it doesn't work and you just wasted all those days eating ribeyes, ribs, chicken wings, asparagus, brussel sprouts, broccoli, etc.

LINK

LINK

^Some personal experiences with keto and acid reflux
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 3:17 pm
Posted by RetiredTiger
Lafayette,LA
Member since Mar 2014
731 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:49 pm to
Avoid the Nissen at all costs and do not let anyone talk you into removing your gall bladder "since we're in there". I have seen that happen to two folks I know and the results were horrendous. Diet,Rx and a good Gastro are the keys to success.
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
1055 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:59 pm to
Had it and blew it by vomiting profusely after surgery (we think). Now reviewing other options such as stretta and linx. I am a 6 year gastric sleeve patient so not eligible for a Nissen since I don't have a fundus. I have no LES function. Last option is convert to gastric bypass which is a tough decision bc I weigh 110 lbs and am fit and otherwise healthy. Do something though. Try something bc you don't want Barrett's esophagus or worse...cancer. I have been on protonix for 6 years and docs want me off pronto. It's the only thing that helps. Find the best linx provider and ask lots of questions.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
6580 posts
Posted on 6/27/18 at 4:12 pm to
I had the Nissen fundiplacation in 2011. Before that I was taking Aciphex and Zantac daily. Most nights I woke up with acid in my throat and couldn’t breathe.
Since then I haven’t taken a single
Pill for reflux or heartburn. The first few weeks were hell but it’s all good after. I’d recommend it. DR Haussmann at the lake did mine.
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