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re: Has a photo of the tyrant that arrested the legally blind man in FL been posted?

Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:52 pm to
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So they can arrest you and put you in jail and it's ok because she amended her paperwork to include jaywalking? And I am so glad brass2mouth understands like anyone gives a flying frick.


Who amended paperwork?

Y’all still don’t get it.

THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEIR SUSPICION IS.

Her mentioning the gun doesn’t negate her ability to ask him ID for the jwalking.

None of y’all have cited any law or any source saying you are correct. Just butthurt that the law isn’t the way you want it to be. And I even agree with you that it should be the way you say, but it’s not
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:55 pm to
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THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEIR SUSPICION IS.

Her mentioning the gun doesn’t negate her ability to ask him ID for the jwalking.

The police can't detain you for secret reasons

That's absurd
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:57 pm to
The law says the have to have reasonable suspicion.

It doesn’t say that they HAVE TO INFORM you of their reasonable suspicion.

Just post a fricking link since it’s so obvious and straightforward. Why is that so hard?
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:01 pm to
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The law says the have to have reasonable suspicion.

It doesn’t say that they HAVE TO INFORM you of their reasonable suspicion.

Just post a fricking link since it’s so obvious and straightforward. Why is that so hard?


The stupidity of all of this is these two fricking moron cops arrest him for "resisting arrest" while the body cams are recording the very opposite of resisting. These dumb fricks better have a back up plan in life.
Posted by Eudooh
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:05 pm to
Back the Blue. Blue Lives Matter
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:07 pm to
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Back the Blue. Blue Lives Matter


You can both back the blue AND call a bitch a bitch when necessary.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:09 pm to
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The police can't detain you for secret reasons

That's absurd


they kind of can..to an extent. but its not good nor standard practice for obvious reasons and would backfire bigly with tons more lawsuits for violations.

but this is all obfuscation and hypothetical things wawa is arguing. its clear the cops got butthurt and retaliated against the man for his attitude. they explained why they stopped him and only escalated because they didnt like his attitude. pretending they truly had some undisclosed secret reason justifies the rest is just nonsense.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10567 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:16 pm to
The amount of police that don't understand simple rights is mine boggling.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:17 pm to
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The law says the have to have reasonable suspicion.

It doesn’t say that they HAVE TO INFORM you of their reasonable suspicion.

Just post a fricking link since it’s so obvious and straightforward. Why is that so hard?


bc this isnt that hypothetical. in reality, they did inform him of their suspicion. you are just hung up on some nonsense they came up with after the fact to justify/ buff their report.

why is it so hard for you to see what clearly happened in that video was an obvious retaliation for the disrespect of asking officers to identify themselves.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:18 pm to
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The stupidity of all of this is these two fricking moron cops arrest him for "resisting arrest" while the body cams are recording the very opposite of resisting. These dumb fricks better have a back up plan in life


There is actually a nonviolent resisting charge that they can probably get him on.

That’s what I’ve had explained to me and what I’ve researched seems to confirm that.

I think the bottom line is there are way too many nonviolent laws on the books. It’s absurd
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:18 pm to
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There is actually a nonviolent resisting charge that they can probably get him on.


He wasn't resisting at all

Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12297 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:19 pm to
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all cops are tyrants


Cops are tyrants by definition. Yes, they are ALL frickING TYRANTS.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:20 pm to
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bc this isnt that hypothetical. in reality, they did inform him of their suspicion. you are just hung up on some nonsense they came up with after the fact to justify/ buff their report.




When are you going to link the law that says they have to provide ALL their reasonable suspicions before they ask for your identification? I’m still waiting.

She could have 5 reasons to have reasonable suspicion. If she names one of them it doesn’t negate the others. And that’s irrelevant because they don’t even have to say what it is.

He can refuse and fight it in court but he will probably lose unless he has evidence
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:21 pm to
Meh, I’d hit it only because I lack standards
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:25 pm to
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When are you going to link the law that says they have to provide ALL their reasonable suspicions before they ask for your identification? I’m still waiting.

She could have 5 reasons to have reasonable suspicion. If she names one of them it doesn’t negate the others. And that’s irrelevant because they don’t even have to say what it is.

He can refuse and fight it in court but he will probably lose unless he has evidence




they didnt have to explain their suspicion but the harsh reality is they did. they made stuff up later to justify it which you vigorously defend.

but at the end of the day any reasonable individual looking into this sees these scumbags got exposed.
this dude is gonna get a fat check lmao.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:26 pm to
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He wasn't resisting at all


I’m not going to argue this with you because I agree it’s fricking absurd but there are nonviolent verbal scenarios where you can be charged with resisting in Florida and it’s been upheld in court.

So he can fight it in court but odds aren’t in his favor.
Posted by Harlan County USA
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:36 pm to


Ruh row...she's a Saints fan! I can recognize those chompers anywhere.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110968 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:42 pm to
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THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEIR SUSPICION IS.


Well HERE, she told him she thought it was because he had a gun. Shortly thereafter he shows her it's clearly not a gun. There was no reason her interaction with him shouldn't have ended immediately after that and that he shouldn't have been allowed to go on his way - no reason whatsoever.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:47 pm to
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Well HERE, she told him she thought it was because he had a gun. Shortly thereafter he shows her it's clearly not a gun. There was no reason her interaction with him shouldn't have ended immediately after that and that he shouldn't have been allowed to go on his way - no reason whatsoever.


Did she say that was the only reason?
He kept cutting her off.

Are you only allowed to have one reason?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110968 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:52 pm to
There's no possible way to read any context in the video and discern that they were ever going after him for jaywalking. Defending this one is a strange hill to die on and I usually find these anti-cop ranters giant douchebags.

Leave the guy alone and let him be on his way when you realize he's not carrying a gun. Geesh. It's not that hard. Guy was never anything more than just slightly perturbed about being stopped.
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