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re: Has 20% become the new standard for tipping?

Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45185 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:00 pm to
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These days, service usually sucks.
I guess I am lucky I don't get bad service very often. If service is poor I will absolutely leave little to no tip. If it is excellent I will give more. I also will cut the server some slack if they are super busy and that effects the service.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17303 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:02 pm to
I gave a $50 tip recently because she was cute and gave good service.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:06 pm to
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Two couples. Two drinks apiece, some hors d ouevres and salads or small plates, four main dishes, four or more sides, a couple desserts, and coffee. That's a $400 ticket, and I'm being generous. Fifteen percent is 60 dollars. Give up your 5 percent tipout, that's 40 for the table take home. You said you'd have a 4 table section, and you mean to tell me you couldn't serve 6 four tops (and some deuces) between 5 and 10 and take home 250 or more? C'mon dude.


Vast majority of guest tables at a high end place like that are couples. Either business dinners or date nights. Then consider the amount of time a full course meal takes to complete - on average about an hour and a half - and that’s if they eat, drink, and leave. So adjust those numbers and see what you come up with.

Also, we’re talking AVERAGE server take home. Sure, as a trainer at a top end restaurant, I had some pretty decent nights of $200+. That’s far from average - even on the weekend at a normal restaurant.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45185 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:11 pm to
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I gave a $50 tip recently because she was cute and gave good service.



Hmmmm interesting
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17303 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:16 pm to
I like cute girls and good service
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45185 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:23 pm to
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I like cute girls and good service



As do I
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:57 pm to
Quality of service has gone down and quantity of tip has gone up. Hahaha screw that 20% shite. Unless it’s amazing service, they get 15%
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20914 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 11:59 pm to
Its a freebie to business owners and servers alike.

I just wish they were capable of earning a regular wage like the rest of employed America.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69146 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 7:41 am to
They make less than half of minimum wage.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58949 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 7:43 am to
Yes, welcomes to the 21st century. Just wait until you ditch your dial-up modem.
Posted by El Batnaros
Member since Apr 2016
431 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:11 am to
Customers have to pay for the food and for the employees wages while the restaurant makes bank...the consumer is getting fricked
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58221 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:14 am to
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while the restaurant makes bank


Profit margins are super thin in the restaurant industry. A shite ton of restaurants go out of business every year, so I doubt many of them are "making bank".
Posted by El Batnaros
Member since Apr 2016
431 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:18 am to
So the customer should split the bill on the restaurant’s employees to keep them in business?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58221 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:19 am to
Nobody is forcing you to go out to eat. This is just how the industry works in this country.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20504 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:25 am to
FWIW it's been almost 10 years, but $1000 sales night was a good night as a server and that was at a turn and burn $20ish a plate place. $1250 was a great night, and something like July 4th weekend some did $1800+. On a Tuesday most did around $750.

Nowadays $1250 is probably a good night. You take some restaurants in busy tourist areas like Nola and Destin with $25/ dish turn and burn as in not fine dining, $1500-2000 nights is probably fairly common for the 'lifers' -servers for life.

I usually averaged about 15% take home after tip outs. Hot chicks and theives got 20% take home on the ref. $250-300 weekend nights happen but not regularly.

Eta: my 2 week paychecks in the summer when I was hustling working 45+ hour weeks which was 5 nights and 2 lunches, was usually about $50-60 lol. That was $3.15 wage if I remember right after taxes, the company auto did my credit card tip income I usually did like $15/ night for cash tips.
This post was edited on 7/8/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58221 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:38 am to
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These days, service usually sucks.


Sorry you only eat at shitty places.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20504 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:42 am to
This is how I always knew the restaurant owner was a scum bag, overtime pay. When I was making $2.15-$3.15 an hour, I worked for a couple of idiots that wouldn't let you work overtime. As a business owner myself now, it's still laughable. An extra $1/ hour for a qualified person that wants to hustle is pennies on the dollar what they will return to you. Instead you pay some lazy lowlife that's barely working 20 hours a week to work that extra shift. Never makes sense.
Posted by Imtheonly1
GEISMAR
Member since May 2018
61 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:43 am to
Why don’t restaurant owners go up 10% on food prices and just pay servers a set wage. They can leave service survey cards on the table so you can rate service.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58221 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:46 am to
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Why don’t restaurant owners go up 10% on food prices and just pay servers a set wage. They can leave service survey cards on the table so you can rate service.




They would probably have to go up more than 10%. Let's face it, in our country the work ethic isn't great and you aren't going to get someone to show up all the time for their shifts and provide good service for $10 an hour pay.

I guess it could work at your low end places, but nicer places will need to have incentive's/pay to reward good servers.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 7/8/18 at 8:49 am to
It has been 20% for some time now. I believe we have tipped 20% for the last 4 years at least.
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