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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:05 pm to Yung_Humma
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:05 pm to Yung_Humma
They tried to get cattle out ahead of the storm. A bunch where left. Storm came through and pushed up a bunch of storm surge. That left cattle standing in pastures that now had water and weren't supposed to. Factor in that most the cattle farmers had to eveacuate themselves and lost homes, and that roads and such were damaged making access to these areas impossible, you ended up with cattle standing there unable to rescue. Over a week or two period, those cows being the o my living, breathing animals for miles, they attracted every mosquito. Not sure if you've ever been in the marsh when those and gnats are bad but it's unbelievable. Their nostrils eventually clogged. Their lungs full of them.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:05 pm to slackster
Looks like Harvey may be pulling in that NW "blob" of convection. If that materializes, it may resume the intensification at a more rapid pace.


Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:06 pm to Duke
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Would it be correct to think about this almost like competing supercells? With the falling stabilized air getting pulled into the other one?
Supercells typically compete for inflow to maintain rotating updrafts. They can merge and build upscale into a MCS that produces a cold pool behind it. So, I guess it would be kind of like when morning convection "contaminates" the atmosphere and afternoon storms can't really get going.
However, with all that said, the sat presentation of Harvey has really started to improve over the last 30 min. The late afternoon & evening pause may be ending...
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:07 pm to slackster
What are you anticipating for the 1 am euro update?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:08 pm to slackster
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Nah, CptBengal said this will be 20x worse than Katrina, so you must be wrong.
You do realize water rolls downhill, right? And that it raining north and on us isn't good, right?
And that my comments were made off a different model run, right?
Oh. I see. You did, but think you're scoring some fake internet points.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:08 pm to rt3
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Easily the most creepy advisory I've ever read. Brings back bad bad times.
for #1... the 10 AM advisory from the NHC on Katrina had just come out... it was at 175 MPH
for #2... the 4 PM advisory from the NHC said Katrina had 165 MPH winds
I'll never forget that ominous feeling after going out for the night in BR early Saturday evening Katrina was like 125 mph and then getting back in early Sunday AM and seeing it had gained 50 mph to 175 mph not to mention how it practically took up the entire gulf as well as the most perfect eye wall you will ever see.
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:09 pm to rds dc

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Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:09 pm to CptBengal
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You do realize water rolls downhill, right? And that it raining north and on us isn't good, right?
And that my comments were made off a different model run, right?
Oh. I see. You did, but think you're scoring some fake internet points.
This is why rds should be the only one in this thread. He knows better than to make wild predictions based off of shite that changes every 12hrs
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:09 pm to rds dc
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During an internal assessment by the National Weather Service, the 10:11 bulletin and its impact were analyzed. The report called the bulletin "a significant moment for the NWS during Katrina," as its detailed and explicit language did not have any precedent, though the message was based on a template designed by the Tampa Weather Office in the 1990s.[3] The strongly worded statement urged residents to evacuate, and was highlighted by national news media.[13] As a result, the level of detail was highlighted as an "innovative best practice" in the NWS assessment, which recommended issuing warnings with similar levels of detail in the future.[3][16] The bulletin was described as "perhaps the most chilling ever issued" by the NWS
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:13 pm to rds dc
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So, I guess it would be kind of like when morning convection "contaminates" the atmosphere and afternoon storms can't really get going.
Ok. Thanks. Gotta take the opportunity to learn something here.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:15 pm to CptBengal
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And that my comments were made off a different model run, right?
You and I were discussing things after the 12z Euro, the same image rds used to illustrate why the conventional thinking might be incorrect as Harvey moves out through LA.
We'll get another run at 1AM and we'll see where it goes from there.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:18 pm to fightin tigers
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I'll take that bet
You're on...
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:18 pm to Paul Allen
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What are you anticipating for the 1 am euro update?
The Euro has had the fewest major changes of any of the global models with respect to Harvey. I see no reason it would/should be any different at the 1am run.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:18 pm to rt3
I remember reading that advisory and getting chills.
Crazy...
Crazy...
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:20 pm to dukke v
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Posted by dukke v
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No worries for the U.S.
I literally started serious hurricane prep from the moment I read these words.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:22 pm to crazycubes
Eye has cleared out again - almost a pinhole


Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:22 pm to NorthEndZone
We still thinking Cat 3 at landfall?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:22 pm to NorthEndZone
Hurricane Hunters have found a 966mb pressure.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:24 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Hurricane Hunters have found a 966mb pressure.
that's a pretty significant drop
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:24 pm to slackster
Any thoughts on the latest cone tightening up the stall after landfall?
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 10:28 pm
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