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re: Harvard announces all course instruction will be online for 2020-2021 academic year

Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:27 pm to
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1.5 years of online classes means you make a lot less of these in-person.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:27 pm to
"Online" and "remote" mean somewhat different things in higher education. This is not online, it's remote, meaning classes will still be held synchronously, but students will attend digitally. In a truly online format, learning is asynchronous and you don't meet as a class at all.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:28 pm to
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the higher education bubble that has been overinflated for years is going to burst because of Covid.


We can only hope.

The Boomers took a collective shite on honest blue collar workers and skill trade jobs. And they raised their kids to hate those careers.

fricking boomers cultural waves echoing through this country again.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:30 pm to
That’s what some universities said in the spring but a lot of professors ended up doing pre recorded videos so students could watch at any time.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:33 pm to
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That’s what some universities said in the spring but a lot of professors ended up doing pre recorded videos so students could watch at any time.
I know, some even just posted slides and activities with no lectures at all.

They hadn't planned for it in the spring and were just scrambling to make it work at all...online, remote, whatever. Most faculty weren't given explicit standards, just were told to make it work to the best of their ability.

But with this announcement coming now two months before the semester, they will almost certainly outline stronger standards for online vs. remote for faculty to follow.

Harvard's press release very specifically references remote learning, not online. I guarantee you the Harvard administration knows what that means.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:37 pm to
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Lol they are going to look so stupid in late August when the disease is gone


the disease will be around until early November. then it will see the results of the election and choose to go away or get worse depending on who is elected
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:41 pm to
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And, I suspect a whole group of liberal kids will continue to pay for such an elite education.


Less than 20% of Harvard students pay full price. 20% pay nothing, 60% pay less than $12,000 per year. Anyone can afford to go to Harvard if they can get accepted.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:45 pm to
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If youre a parent and are still debating about sending your kid to school this fall, have them get a job and save up for next year

Johnny can just take a year off if he is getting TOPS?
Posted by Nigel Farage
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:46 pm to
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We can only hope.

The Boomers took a collective shite on honest blue collar workers and skill trade jobs. And they raised their kids to hate those careers.

fricking boomers cultural waves echoing through this country again.



Not to mention that we have sold out untold thousands of US kids so we can import Chinese and other foreign students to fill up those slots for more money. We have also guaranteed student loans that cant be shed in bankruptcy so these same kids can get in copious amounts of debt before the graduate ensuring that they wont be financially viable for years to come. I could go on and on but I really do hope this is that this is the day of reckoning for higher ed, its desperately needed.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Nigel Farage
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:51 pm to
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Seriously. Or just sign up at BRCC for a few easy credits online while working/interning somewhere. Not worth wasting the money and missing the college experience (aka some of the best years of your life)

No online education is worth that cost


My dad lost his job a few months after I started at LSU, I had to take out loans to keep going there while my family resettled their finances so my siblings could go to school. I was a dumb kid who got talked into staying there by my "counselor" when a real counselor would have told me to go to BRCC and try to get instate tuition while things calmed down. I didnt do this obviously and graduated with a bunch of debt that I have fortunately paid off but I had to make a bunch of personal sacrifices like living at home to get to this goal. I know better than a lot of the people on here do about living with student loan debt, hindsight is 50/50 but if I could give my younger self advice it would be what I just said above.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by terriblegreen
Spokane, LA
Member since Aug 2011
12486 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:51 pm to
That Harvard degree keeps getting less and less desirable.
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Lol they are going to look so stupid in late August when the disease is gone.


You mean April when it’s supposed to disappear? Oh wait...
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:26 pm to
Complete scam for a worthless product
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:46 pm to
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The first domino falls, the higher education bubble that has been overinflated for years is going to burst because of Covid. Schools will have to close, all will have some degree of reorganization, professors and other faculty will be laid off, admissions and tuition will have to change as well. I personally cant wait for the end results of all of this, higher education has been a farce for twenty years with the overinflated tuition and marxist indoctrination centers in all of their social science departments.

This is going to be fascinating to follow going forward, I hope LSU will have to undergo a rigorous restructuring as well because they have needed it for decades. If youre a parent and are still debating about sending your kid to school this fall, have them get a job and save up for next year. It will be cheaper and they will have a better college experience as well.



Crazy as this is Nigel, it does seem like one positive we will get out of this.

It's damn time colleges paid the mother fricking piper and wake up from their overinflation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:54 pm to
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Isn't their online curriculum available to anybody, for free?


i think they had to pull it (one of them did, maybe Yale) b/c, and i shite you not, it didn't include proper transcription for hearing disabled students
Posted by LSU JURSIT
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:07 pm to
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And, I suspect a whole group of liberal kids will continue to pay for such an elite education.



Honestly, you don't go to Harvard for the education. You go for the diploma.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24766 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:18 pm to
If Biden wins, they'll announce on November 4, 2020, that all is well and students are required to return to classes immediately.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33922 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:22 pm to
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connections

Good luck with that when everything is online
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