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re: Happy back to the office day for State workers!

Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Goalpost
Member since Jan 2023
625 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:25 am to
State workers who can work from home were getting more work done than going to the office. That's just a fact. No office gossip or any bs that comes with it. Hopefully Landry is one and done. I'm a lifelong republican but I can see that he is a horrible governor.
Posted by TheHumanTornado
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2008
4058 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:39 am to
You are absolutely correct but it’s not the talking point being sold. I’ll take off more and work less. Works for me
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1097 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:56 am to
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Gov employees haven't used sick leave and have infrequently used vacation leave since WFH. I've heard of people not using one hour of sick leave in 5 years.


Then those people are morons. There aren't many ways to get fired with civil service protection, but payroll fraud would be one of them. With the obscene amount of leave that you can earn, there is just no reason to do it. No way in hell I'm ever taking a vacation on the clock.
But like someone else mentioned, that dentist appointment for my kid on my work from home day takes 1.5 hours away from my laptop. Now it's a 4.5 hour leave request minimum, because I'm not driving back and worth across town all day to save a few hours of leave. I ain't mad, it's just the way it is.
The biggest perk of working from home one day a week was not having to deal with the soul crushing traffic for that one day. My 20 minute morning commute takes an hour in the evening. I'll survive, and I'm sure I'll be more productive on some days and less on others.
But don't act like every state worker was out there abusing it and surfing the OT from their couch or relaxing on a beach on the clock. It was nice while it happened, but now that it's gone life will go on just like it did all those years before.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27100 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:03 pm to
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Everyone should have a camera in their office to see if their salary cost is worthwhile.


Then they’d realize how valuable my Tigerdroppings posting is and have to pay me more.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11960 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:13 pm to
Just here to say frick Landry and his fake arse Florida Tiger. You cost us a trip to the CFP you sob
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3106 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Governor Landry's back to the office mandate* begins today.


*For the executive branch only
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13495 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Ditch the unions that negotiate against taxpayer interests and then we can talk.


What public employee unions are there in Louisiana? Just teachers?
Posted by LSUChamps03
Member since Feb 2006
2835 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 6:36 pm to
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would you take a cut in pay to work from home?


No. I don’t mind working at my office. For me I prefer that routine. However, if I were told I had to commute an hour I’d be willing to take a fair pay cut to avoid the stress, loss of personal time and cost associated with that kind of commute.

It is interesting watching the mechanics of how telework and return to work are being implemented. You just shake your head and stuff coming from both sides. Human nature, I guess.
Posted by Germantiger001
Southeast LA
Member since Jun 2016
1065 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 6:44 pm to
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What’s it like being babysat like a school child?


You don’t think employees get checked on like school children in person?
Posted by LSUChamps03
Member since Feb 2006
2835 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 6:59 pm to
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But like someone else mentioned, that dentist appointment for my kid on my work from home day takes 1.5 hours away from my laptop. Now it's a 4.5 hour leave request minimum, because I'm not driving back and worth across town all day to save a few hours of leave.


It’s worth mentioning that many WFH employees work when sick. If you work in an office and are sick you take sick leave, which is a day(s) of lost productivity. It is what it is, but it’s certainly one benefit to the agency of WFH. Of course someone has to do the work, so it rolls to another employee or waits for the other to return.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62318 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:05 pm to
I got news for Jazzy Jeff - state workers have been back in the office for several years. There have been a few holdouts on the LSU campus, though.
Posted by tigerpike
P-Ville
Member since Oct 2004
1336 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:37 pm to
It is not difficult to fire a classified employee. You just need to have a supervisor who is worth a shot and actually does their job. Also, what does civil service have to do with the end of telework?
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:15 am to
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It is not difficult to fire a classified employee. You just need to have a supervisor who is worth a shot and actually does their job. Also, what does civil service have to do with the end of telework?



The person I responded to said that if they aren't doing their work at home, just fire them. That's were civil service comes in because you can't just unilaterally fire them.

I worked for the state for few years, and the firing process is nothing like private sector. Private sector you can just fire someone. There's no process other than having a reason. Working under civil service rules, you have to document that the employee has been talked to, document they've been given training and guidance to help them better do their job, and document continued offenses. You have to build a case that the employee in question is not meeting the job requirements and they've not only been told about the problem, but attempts have been made to help them correct the problem. My neighbor is an attorney who works with a state agency; he's responsible of assessing this documentation and giving the green light on firing.

Yes, a manager who is on it can get it done, but my experience was managers had enough to worry about without trying to get a substandard employee out of there. Better to just stick them in a corner with inconsequential work so they can't mess anything up.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35754 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:17 am to
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Working under civil service rules, you have to document that the employee has been talked to, document they've been given training and guidance to help them better do their job, and document continued offenses. You have to build a case that the employee in question is not meeting the job requirements and they've not only been told about the problem, but attempts have been made to help them correct the problem.


I’ve never worked anywhere where you didn’t have to do this
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
16968 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:52 am to
At least it won't be as bad this week since lots of people take off. Next week will be the real stress test.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:24 pm to
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I’ve never worked anywhere where you didn’t have to do this



Depends on the company. My first employer was a small firm that answered to just a few owners. They could do whatever they want. My current company has it in their policy and practices to do this, but there's also not much recourse for the employee to go against it if they decide otherwise unless they want to lawyer up. Civil service enforces this protection.
Posted by AcadiaParishTiger
Member since Nov 2023
223 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:29 pm to
Not for me !!!
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7342 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:31 pm to
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What’s it like being babysat like a school child?


My team doesn't even know where I am half the time.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11804 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:34 pm to
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State workers who can work from home were getting more work done than going to the office.



This is patently false. Many state workers weren't doing shite at home. I'm quite sure some were more productive, but not the majority.
Posted by Goalpost
Member since Jan 2023
625 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:56 pm to
If you know anything about state government you’d know that management can see if they are working or not. Even if they have the mouse twitch installed.
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