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re: Happy back to the office day for State workers!
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:39 am to tigamike
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:39 am to tigamike
This is happening in my state too. I’ve been in govt IT work for 3 decades. Most IT workers in our state are not given cellphones and though not required, they use their own to provide nearly 24/7 coverage for issues. All this is changing. Return to office means no more 24/7/365 on call, until they give me a device on which to do so. They also no longer have an office for me, so they will be renting office space and getting less work from me. Same for everyone. I know.
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:40 am to Dawgfanman
This is such a stupid mindset. Because you have to show up in office, you refuse to do more work? Why weren’t you doing the same amount of work regardless?
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:41 am to tigamike
Landry is a moron and an accurate representative of the population of the state
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:42 am to tigamike
Not even being a state worker I think this is dumb AF. If the people weren't working at home, fire them. It is that easy. If they weren't working and it wasn't really noticed? Eliminate the roll
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:43 am to whoa
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This is such a stupid mindset. Because you have to show up in office, you refuse to do more work? Why weren’t you doing the same amount of work regardless?
I have been doing more than paid for, because I care about the students and faculty, I did so partly because of not having to commute, now I will spend 3 of the hours I could’ve been working, in a car, polluting and clogging up roads. I can’t login to my switches, routers, servers from the fricking car. This ain’t complicated.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:43 am to Topwater Trout
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don't most work in government owned, paid with taxes, buildings?
Things that would help if WFH
- Smaller maintenance workforce for buildings
- Less road wear and tear
- Better retention of employees that are good
- good employees leave for pay or they had bad leadership. Most leadership is from people that had no other qualification other than being there longer
- less office space required
- less traffic
- happier work life balance from not driving in BR traffic
There are clearly some bad eggs in state govt but a majority get held up by the few. Like DOTDs contract services. It takes too much red tape to get through and I know it’s frustrating for the consultants as well as the engineers at DOTD.
DOTD had one of the stricter WFH policies. Had to create logs, put them in timesheets, got audited, and had to adhere to a strict WFH schedule. Many of the other departments didn’t have to do that. I think DOA or something was 100% WFH and others had flexibility on what days they could WFH week by week.
They just need to reevaluate the whole thing and come up with a universal solution for WFH.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:43 am to whoa
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This is such a stupid mindset. Because you have to show up in office, you refuse to do more work? Why weren’t you doing the same amount of work regardless?
It’s pretty simple dude. Companies, executives, the government in this case, want to have their cake and eat it too. You want me to be an arse in a seat from 8-5, that’s fine but when I leave, I’m off.
You want to give me the flexibility to act like an adult, I’ll make a concession and work more staggered hours, including if you need something at 8pm on a Tuesday night.
You want this structured bullshite, that’s what you get, but don’t complain about it when that’s exactly what I do.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:43 am to Dawgfanman
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if allowed to work from home, nearly 16 hours a day,
you have a government job and work 16 hours a day? you are working 80 hrs a week from home but if you had to go to the office you would only work 40 hrs...tell me how that makes sense other than while at home you are stealing and inflating hours?
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:44 am to whoa
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This is such a stupid mindset. Because you have to show up in office, you refuse to do more work? Why weren’t you doing the same amount of work regardless?
You're asking why someone who isn't paid to be oncall all day everyday would adhere to their actual working hours when forced to return to the office and should instead continue doing unpaid work?
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:44 am to Topwater Trout
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you have a government job and work 16 hours a day? you are working 80 hrs a week from home but if you had to go to the office you would only work 40 hrs...tell me how that makes sense other than while at home you are stealing and inflating hours?
I love comments like these posted smack dab in the middle of the work day. I'm sure you're on PTO right now though
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 9:45 am
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:45 am to whoa
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This is such a stupid mindset. Because you have to show up in office, you refuse to do more work? Why weren’t you doing the same amount of work regardless?
He isn’t bringing home his laptop anymore. No access.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:45 am to tigamike
My neighbor has been work from home since Covid. He went back this week. There old building was converted into a State Financial Office. The state had to rent a 10k s.f. office off airline hwy, gut it, and remodel it just to provide office space for his division. Everyone is sharing; 2 per cubicle and 2 per office.... just to meet the Landry requirement.
Oh yeah and they are all working off wifi because the "offices" couldn't be wired in time. So everyone is working even slower than normal. Sounds par for the course with the State of Louisiana.
Oh yeah and they are all working off wifi because the "offices" couldn't be wired in time. So everyone is working even slower than normal. Sounds par for the course with the State of Louisiana.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:46 am to TigerTatorTots
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If the people weren't working at home, fire them. It is that easy.
It's not that easy. Public sector unions make firing bad employees such a circle perk that it is near impossible.
The point isnt productivity, it's pain. Just like in the federal sector, Trump and Vought want to bring pain to entice people to go to the private sector.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:48 am to Topwater Trout
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you have a government job and work 16 hours a day?
No, I work about 8-10, but am available (or was) from when I awake until I go to bed (within reason). Now at a minimum that time is cut by the amount of commute (1.5 hours each way). I will now choose to not be available for other hours, because I never had to but did so because I’m salary, I really do care, and they were flexible with me. So I was flexible with theme now that they aren’t, I won’t be. And if they don’t like it I’ll retire and they can pay me and my wife after me 60% of my salary for the next 30-40 years
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:48 am to mthorn2
Again, RTO has nothing to do with production, it is about pain. The salaries, benefits and retirements aren't sustainable. So the easiest way to bring change is enticing people to quit.
ETA--Im 100% supportive of it for all bargaining employees protected by public sector unions.
Ditch the unions that negotiate against taxpayer interests and then we can talk.
ETA--Im 100% supportive of it for all bargaining employees protected by public sector unions.
Ditch the unions that negotiate against taxpayer interests and then we can talk.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:49 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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He isn’t bringing home his laptop anymore. No access.
I will once every 8 weeks when I am actually on call. I will not anymore, to help the less experienced, during the other 7 weeks, cause frick em.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:50 am to Dawgfanman
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So I was flexible with theme now that they aren’t, I won’t be.
Pretty simple
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:50 am to LNCHBOX
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You're asking why someone who isn't paid to be oncall all day everyday would adhere to their actual working hours when forced to return to the office and should instead continue doing unpaid work?
No, I’m questioning why they were doing unpaid work to begin with. If my hours are 9-5, im working 9-5 whether its at home or in an office.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:51 am to mthorn2
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There old building was converted into a State Financial Office. The state had to rent a 10k s.f. office off airline hwy, gut it, and remodel it just to provide office space for his division. Everyone is sharing; 2 per cubicle and 2 per office.... just to meet the Landry requirement
I know a few people scrambling to make something like this work. People having to share cubicles or work in a common area with a laptop because the state didn't have the space for everyone returning to work. I also know a lot of people with the mindset that Dawgfan has. They were content being on call more than usual because they had no commute and could easily log in from the house to do some work quickly, but now that you're adding in 30m-1.5hr of commuting in a day, to hell with that.
The state probably would've been better off culling the useless ones and allow the efficient workers to work from home. Win-win.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:52 am to El Segundo Guy
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RTO has nothing to do with production, it is about pain. The salaries, benefits and retirements aren't sustainable. So the easiest way to bring change is enticing people to quit.
Idk why people haven’t figured out this is exactly what Jeff is trying to do hence the hiring freeze. He’s cutting state work force by breaking people and forcing them to quit.
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