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re: Guys with kids who don't want anything to do with them while their exwife remarries

Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:52 am to
Posted by Evil Little Thing
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:52 am to
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Tiger n Miami AU83


That is really sad. I'm dealing with the wrath of an ex-wife, and it sucks so much. I can't imagine wasting my life being bitter behind some man, trying to poison a child because of my own inability to move on.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:55 am to
Yeah I follow. Just pointing out there are often two sides to a story.

And my situation was never really bad for me. I grew up with two step sisters every other weekend that were great and I appreciated. By the time they quit visiting (basically when they were 18 and I was 16), I just felt bad for my dad. He deserved better and still does to this day. Last time I saw one of them was at her wedding. They are both good women. Their mom just wanted to hurt my dad.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:57 am to
This about a chick you're smashing? Or just a friend?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:57 am to
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Yeah I follow. Just pointing out there are often two sides to a story. And my situation was never really bad for me. I grew up with two step sisters every other weekend that were great and I appreciated. By the time they quit visiting (basically when they were 18 and I was 16), I just felt bad for my dad. He deserved better and still does to this day. Last time I saw one of them was at her wedding. They are both good women. Their mom just wanted to hurt my dad.


It happens both ways. Some guys try to poison their kids mind about the mother too. Normally the kids see it for what it is and by the actions of the parent who is there for them.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:58 am to
you aren't completely wrong...those guys are probably deadbeats and owe a bunch in back pay
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:59 am to
Trust me I know women can be crazy there's no doubt about that and I think divorce laws in this country need to be changed to better suit men because right now the power a mother has Is frightening. If she wants her kid no matter how awful of a parent she is she gets him 9x out of 10.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
467 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:59 am to
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People need to choose better partners.

To add to this...

If people are planning to have kids, they aren't just choosing a partner but also their future kids' parent.

A good partner is not always a good parent.
A good parent is not always a good partner.

Choose wisely.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:59 am to
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And some other man raises your kids. To me this is one of the shittiest and most beta moves on the planet, as well as trashy, but Hey! No child support amirite.


Yep, one of the biggest piece of shite moves you can pull. Wife's cousin is going through this right now. Her ex-husband was a druggie who stole from her and her parents. He hasn't even tried to see/contact his kids in the 3 years since divorce. Only reason she hasn't went after him for child support is because he is broke and in and out of jail.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:00 am to
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I can't imagine having kids and only seeing them every other weekend. Or not at all.



Hardest part about a divorce I didn't want. I see them at school activities as well but only have them on the first, third, and fifth weekends. Good news is its from Wednesday after school until Sunday evening.

Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:00 am to
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Nice broad generalization.

How about a situation where the wife cheats on husband, divorces him, convinces a judge to slap a restraining order on him (because women are insane when “protecting their children during a divorce”) and then does everything in her power to brainwash the kids and keep them away from daddy.

Maybe dad keeps trying but he just isn’t there.


I've seen that situation played out. But the guy who didn't have much money, still hired a lawyer, and got all that shite taken care of, has joint custody. There are dads who say frick it and blame the mom, and there are dads who act normal, and fight to get their kids as much as possible, and they get their kids just as much. I've posted this on here before, I even have a buddy who was able to keep his ex wife and her new husband from moving off with child.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:02 am to
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It sucks, I know. The problem with my stepdaughter, her dad doesn't want to see her. Of course, that changes if it benefits him.



Not a step daughter but a friend of mine's ex hub allowed his new GF to kick his 15 yo daughter out of "their" house and send her packing. Her mom was out of town and calling around like crazy to get her daughter picked up.

Dude turns around and marries said GF a few weeks later. I would send a bitch packing if they even looked at my kids sideways...
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2330 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:03 am to
Hmmm....

How about the mom who wants a divorce from the dad and uses the "you'll never see your kids again" line? Women like that will do everything in their power to keep kids away from the man they now hate.

On the other hand....if BOTH parents have a decent head on their shoulders they WILL make joint custody work. Seeing your kids only 50% of the time still sucks, but it's better than every other weekend.

Bottom line....DIVORCE SUCKS FOR EVERYONE.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:06 am to
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Hmmm....

How about the mom who wants a divorce from the dad and uses the "you'll never see your kids again" line? Women like that will do everything in their power to keep kids away from the man they now hate.



Again, doesn't matter. Seriously, I've got so many friends who have dealt with divorce and my best friend just got a divorce. His wife is just like that. It doesn't matter, they split 50/50. She can say what she wants and dad's on FB and TD can act like they can't do shite b/c they are a man, and come up with excuses. Bottomline, if you want your kid, you will get your kid, at worst 50/50.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20872 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:10 am to
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Trust me I know women can be crazy there's no doubt about that and I think divorce laws in this country need to be changed to better suit men because right now the power a mother has Is frightening. If she wants her kid no matter how awful of a parent she is she gets him 9x out of 10.


True. My ex is an addict and was not in my sons' lives for a couple of years. Then all the sudden, she goes to rehab, gets sober, and I have to split 50% of the time with her. If the roles were reversed, I would have probably only have gotten a supervised visit once a month.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:10 am to
Also, I'm that other man who married a woman with kids. We tried everything in our power to keep them a relationship with their dad, all he did was lie to them and has literally never been there for them. But, he spent years and years telling his family and friends that my wife wouldn't let him near them, in reality, he just didn't give a shite.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:11 am to
I have a friend who had something similar to this happen. He knocked a girl up when they were both 21. They hadn't been in a relationship for long and it ended soon after. He helped out whenever he could (he was just out of the military and was trying to go through school) and she started dating a really good guy. She got engaged, married, and then asked my buddy if the new husband could adopt the child. He knew that his daughter had a chance at an awesome life with a father who not only provided better than he ever could but also had time to give way more attention. He let him adopt her, they moved to midland, texas and the baw is making the big bucks and is an awesome dad. Is it beta if a woman gives her child up for adoption for a chance at a better life? Why is it any different for him?
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2330 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:13 am to
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Again, doesn't matter. Seriously, I've got so many friends who have dealt with divorce and my best friend just got a divorce. His wife is just like that. It doesn't matter, they split 50/50. She can say what she wants and dad's on FB and TD can act like they can't do shite b/c they are a man, and come up with excuses. Bottomline, if you want your kid, you will get your kid, at worst 50/50.


I agree. If the guy is a good person, has a job, maintains a good home, etc., there is no way a crazy mom can convince a judge that he shouldn't have joint custody....especially if dad has a decent attorney.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:13 am to
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Why is it any different for him?


It doesn't make him beta, it makes him a dumbass
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:14 am to
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Also, I'm that other man who married a woman with kids. We tried everything in our power to keep them a relationship with their dad, all he did was lie to them and has literally never been there for them. But, he spent years and years telling his family and friends that my wife wouldn't let him near them, in reality, he just didn't give a shite.

I'm in the exact same situation. Sperm donor doesn't want to take care of anything and constantly tells others that she is keeping his daughter away from him. It's quite comical yet sad. He's destroying any semblance of a relationship so he do his own thing.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:16 am to
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I'm in the exact same situation. Sperm donor doesn't want to take care of anything and constantly tells others that she is keeping his daughter away from him. It's quite comical yet sad. He's destroying any semblance of a relationship so he do his own thing.


I would estimate, 90% of the people I know, who have nothing to do with their kids and blame their ex wives, are full of shite, and some of these were good friends of mine in the past. Granted, I can only think of 4-5 of guys I know like that. The rest either had a good mutual agreement and split their time, or actually fought for their kid, and split their time evenly.
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