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re: Guy with $170k in law school loans is suing school. Drives Uber full time

Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:40 pm to
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He took the Texas bar exam in 2007, and again he failed. He says he didn't feel that TJSL prepared him well for the exam, a failure he attributes in part to the school's in-house bar-preparation service.
"It's not terribly great at preparing people for the bar exam," he said.


What a chode.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36180 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:41 pm to
Let's assume is sob-story is true:

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"I could have had pretty much any criminal-justice profession that I wanted," he said.


Well then why don't you? There are other jobs in the criminal justice system besides being a lawyer

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he took a managerial job at GameStop, a retail video-game store


Oh....that's why. Grow up Peter Pan!

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In college, he says, he excelled academically, making the dean's list every year and graduating with a 4.0 GPA.


Assuming that is true and that he didn't completely shite all over himself on the LSAT, he likely would have gotten some type of scholarship offer from at least one law school albeit maybe a lower-tier school.

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He was also considering attending his undergraduate alma mater as well as Baylor Law School.


The article says he graduated law school in 2006. Unless my information is wrong, UNT did not have a law school until 2012! Also, Baylor is a decent school. You don't just pass up a top 60 law school to go to a bo-bo law school out in San Diego

Here's what happened. This guy couldn't get in to any of the better law schools in TX (or probably the surrounding area). He was accepted to the school in San Diego were the admission standards wHere much lower and the tuition was much higher. He figured it would be cool to live in San Diego and took out a shite load of student loans to pay for not only school but his living expenses. He then failed the bar and instead of growing up and being an adult, decided that it was more fun to work at a fricking video game store.

Pass the damn bar and he could likely get a job AT LEAST as a public defender SOMEWHERE IN AMERICA.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64587 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:42 pm to
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Why are these people always the worst examples.

In truth, law schools do skew numbers and lie to students. It's bullshite.

But Mr. Can't Pass the Bar who goes to TJ is a terrible ambassador. For those not familiar, TJSL is Cooley-esque, meaning it is one of the most mocked and worst law schools in the country. Cooley, for example, created its own rankings (Cooley is #2) to publish because it's so shitty.


Well said.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:45 pm to
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He was also considering attending his undergraduate alma mater as well as Baylor Law School.
TJSL set itself apart by responding to his inquiries quickly, contacting Moffatt to let him know they'd love to have him, he said. That, in addition to the sunny San Diego, California, campus and the good job statistics the school advertised, convinced him that he should attend.


Sounds to me like he couldn't get into Baylor or North Texas Law. Why else would you choose an independent law school that isn't ranked over a traditional university?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:47 pm to
I'm fairly certain his shirt says,
"Note to self
Play more
Work less"

So frick him and his lazy self and wife.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
21719 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:51 pm to
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The Uber drivers here in Atlanta don't make shite.


That's because it takes forever to drive anywhere in metro Atlanta.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:52 pm to
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He took the Texas bar exam in 2007, and again he failed. He says he didn't feel that TJSL prepared him well for the exam, a failure he attributes in part to the school's in-house bar-preparation service.




First, no one relies on law school for bar prep. It's a completely different mode of testing. Law school exams are in depth, while the bar is minimum competency over a broad area of subjects.

So he failed the Texas bar, after going out of state for law school and relied on San Diego's in house prep course?


I'll be the first to call BARBRI a cash grab, but he's an idiot for not shelling out $2600 for the course or at least buying second hand materials and trying to learn how to take the test through them.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:55 pm to
I'm going to sue LSU. They did not prepare me for the New York bar exam.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64061 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:08 pm to
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He graduated in May 2006 and immediately started studying for the California bar exam, he said. He failed the bar despite studying, and he took a managerial job at GameStop, a retail video-game store. Though concerned with passing the bar, Moffatt said, he had bigger issues to worry about — like ballooning student-loan debt.


a. How many times did it take Cleo Fields to pass the bar?

b. Sounds like he gave up after two tries.

c. Why can't he get a job as a LEO if he has a degree in CJ.

d. Why can't he find a job as a paralegal/law clerk which may aid him in studying for the bar plus pay him more than $25K/year.

e. Sounds like this guy needs to call the Whaaambulance.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
4098 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:17 pm to
Dude could've parlayed those Criminal Justice and law degrees (without bar passage) into a Fed law enforcement career instantly. He could already have at least 8 yrs in their retirement system by now by doing that, and be close to having those loans forgiven. Probably a good thing he hasn't passed the bar, I wouldn't want to be his client.
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3147 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:19 pm to
If this guy wins then anyone who graduates and doesn't use their degree should get a refund.

I've already started applying to LSU for some cash back
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:19 pm to
TJSL over Baylor?

Yeah, that guy is a fricking retard.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21755 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:23 pm to
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He failed the bar despite studying


Here is your problem. I have a friend of mine from law school that packed up after graduation and moved to San Diego. He had to take the bar 3 times before he finally passed. He hung a shingle and beat the bushes for business early on. He is doing really well now. Guy is dumb as a box of rocks, but is very determined.

All this guy has to do is pass the bar. He will find a job somewhere. Worst case, hang a shingle.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18466 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:24 pm to
I think this is ridiculous but part of me understands his sentiments.

Institutions of higher learning rape people as much as Wall Street bankers do. Remember the Occupy Wall Street movement. Ever wonder who had that much time to spare on a protest?

I did some searching and found out the the profession that had the most protesters was College professor followed by high school teacher.

I seems like they only like rape, if it is they that are doing the raping. Wall Street taking advantage of people, okay. But what about the colleges that are giving out degrees in social work or woman/black studies where there are no jobs and they burden students with piles of debt.

People who live in glass houses.......
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:57 pm to
I knew someone that went to Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. Failed the Cali bar and then moved here to Nashville.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22345 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:58 pm to
"I'm a huge pussy"

Article over
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
20156 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:01 pm to
Did this school advertise that with a degree from them, you could practice law without having to pass the bar?
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10860 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Did this school advertise that with a degree from them, you could practice law without having to pass the bar?


not only that, but with even a minimal amount of research (something i hope anyone prepared to shell out 170k for a degree would do) you can find out job statistics and a general reputation for law schools. its impossible for me to feel sorry for clowns like this guy.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37596 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:11 pm to
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Dude could've parlayed those Criminal Justice and law degrees (without bar passage) into a Fed law enforcement career instantly. He could already have at least 8 yrs in their retirement system by now by doing that, and be close to having those loans forgiven. Probably a good thing he hasn't passed the bar, I wouldn't want to be his client.


My buddy did something like this. Michigan undergrad, Iowa law, didn't pass the bar, and is now a federal bank auditor.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10860 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 4:12 pm to
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Michigan undergrad, Iowa law


=/= north texas and thomas jefferson law
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