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re: Grand Jury Takes No Action On Merritt Landry Case

Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:14 pm to
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No, but I think he's a veg.


Negative.

From WDSU...

Coulter's health is slowly improving, but his condition is still a far cry from what anyone might consider normal. In December, his family said he could not get out of bed or walk, without the help of another person. He had to eat and drink everything from a straw. And, while he was slowly starting to communicate again, family members said he was still slow to form sentences.
Posted by M1911
Member since Sep 2012
63 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:14 pm to
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I really dont care about the court aspect at all. Just discussing what really happened.



In other words, you are talking out of your arse.

Keep doing so, it's cute (in a pitiful sense) and I get a good laugh from it.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290880 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:15 pm to
What do you think happened?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:16 pm to
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Where there is a paragraph A, there is also a paragraph B, to-wit:
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B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of force or violence was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle, if both of the following occur:

The shooter wasn't inside the property he was protecting.


He was inside, then he saw the kid trespass and he went outside. You don't have to be shooting from inside the house.

He left the house to:

1. prevent unlawful entry thereto

2. compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:17 pm
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:17 pm to
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he could not get out of bed or walk

I guess the next place he robs better have a ramp.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:18 pm to
I agree with all that, but why do assume Landry didn't warn him before he shot? What gives you that impression?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:20 pm to
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I agree with all that, but why do assume Landry didn't warn him before he shot? What gives you that impression?



It is NOT a requirement that you warn someone that is trespassing with the intention of doing you or your family harm, he wasn't a cop serving a warrant. Alerting them only puts you at more risk.

It says in numerous articles that Coulter heard him coming up and turned around.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290880 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:21 pm to
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I agree with all that, but why do assume Landry didn't warn him before he shot? What gives you that impression?



1)cause i think the kid would have ran. By all accounts Landry shot from a distance. It's not like it was a tussle in close proximity.

2)Landry dropped him with a head shot. It's a lot easier to hit someone unsuspecting in the head, than someone that is aware you are there.

3)This goes back to #1. Had Landry announced himself, there is no reason for the kid to reach for a gun he never had. Especially if the kid looks up and sees a gun pointed at him. HE's going to run. Or put his hands up.

just imo
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:21 pm to
He's not in a coma or a persistent vegetative state, but he eats through a straw, can't form a complete sentence and needs assistance to walk. I don't imagine he'll be jumping any more fences in the near future. Need more information to tell if he's any dumber than before getting shot.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290880 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:23 pm to
has he testified in court, or will he be able to testify?
Posted by M1911
Member since Sep 2012
63 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:27 pm to
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Where there is a paragraph A, there is also a paragraph B, to-wit:
quote:
B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of force or violence was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle, if both of the following occur:

The shooter wasn't inside the property he was protecting.



So cute. Do you even read the stuff you post?

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B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of force or violence was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle, if both of the following occur:



Either way, the first part I posted is as clear as day. Even Nola.com could figure that one out.

quote:


What do you think happened?



Who knows? I wasn't there.

Doesn't sound like he can be proven guilty in a court of law to me, though.

Like I said, if a grand jury doesn't indict him, it's very unlikely he will actually be found guilty in a real trial. The standards are much higher there and he actually gets to put on a defense.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:31 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69091 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:28 pm to
That's why I say, hey man nice shot. What a good shot man.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:29 pm to
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has he testified in court, or will he be able to testify?


Any lawyer would be an idiot to put him on the stand, whether he had brain damage or not. The kid has an extensive criminal record consisting of mainly, you guessed it, BURGLARIES!

He is by no means credible and would get smoked by any halfway decent defense attorney on cross.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:29 pm to
Are victims called to testify before a Grand Jury? I don't think so, but I'm not sure.

In any event, I get the impression that this kid wouldn't be much of a witness. I don't know the extent of his brain injury, but I wonder if he has any memory of the event, and if he does, could he even articulate a coherent response.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71141 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:33 pm to
I doubt I warn someone who is breaking into my home that I am aware of them. No need to increase my own risk.

I don't think Lester is chastising Landry for possibly not warning the kid, just stating he doesn't think he did.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:35 pm to
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Are victims called to testify before a Grand Jury? I don't think so, but I'm not sure.



The prosecution can call witnesses, not sure about victims but I know I wasn't asked to.
Posted by M1911
Member since Sep 2012
63 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:35 pm to
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1)cause i think the kid would have ran. By all accounts Landry shot from a distance. It's not like it was a tussle in close proximity.

2)Landry dropped him with a head shot. It's a lot easier to hit someone unsuspecting in the head, than someone that is aware you are there.

3)This goes back to #1. Had Landry announced himself, there is no reason for the kid to reach for a gun he never had. Especially if the kid looks up and sees a gun pointed at him. HE's going to run. Or put his hands up.

just imo



Right. Well, when your life and the lives of your family are at risk, you don't take chances, especially ones that would put you more at risk and as a result, put your family more at risk as well.

Alerting him would have just given the kid more of a chance to draw his weapon or alert his friends or something else that could have ended up badly for Landry and his family.

When your life is at risk (and especially when the lives of your family are at risk as well), you want every possible legal advantage. And yes, that includes not giving the person putting you in that situation a heads up. I mean really, what if he did have a gun on him?

Wasn't it like 30 feet? Not much of a distance, really.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:36 pm to
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Wasn't it like 30 feet? Not much of a distance, really.


Still a pretty good distance to make a frickin wicked headshot.
Posted by M1911
Member since Sep 2012
63 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:38 pm to
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Still a pretty good distance to make a frickin wicked headshot.



With a pistol, maybe so.

Or he's just lucky. I would almost be willing to bet he was aiming center mass and just so happened to hit his head. That's entirely speculation, of course.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:39 pm to
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don't think Lester is chastising Landry for possibly not warning the kid, just stating he doesn't think he did.


I also think the balls that some of these kids have is severely underestimated. To say he would have ran or put his hands up is just way off base.

This is New Orleans people, never forget that.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:53 pm
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