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Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:54 pm to boom roasted
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At this point everyone is making shite up. Why not throw my hat into the ring?
do you really think there is a possibility the kid reached for a pretend gun in hopes of scaring the guy with the real gun aimed at his head? Why would he do that? why wouldn't he run?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:01 pm to Lester Earl
How do you know the real gun was pointed at his head first?
What if Landry pointed and shot after the kid reached for a pretend gun?
What if Landry pointed and shot after the kid reached for a pretend gun?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:01 pm to GaryMyMan
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Let me know how it goes when you try to cite a Nola.com article as a basis for your legal defense.
Astute rebuttal. Cute.
I'll help you out with this one.
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A. The use of force or violence upon the person of another is justifiable when committed for the purpose of preventing a forcible offense against the person or a forcible offense or trespass against property in a person's lawful possession, provided that the force or violence used must be reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent such offense, and that this Section shall not apply where the force or violence results in a homicide.
LINK
I mean, do you really just think they made that up in the article I posted? lololol, cute. Hope you aren't so stupid in real life.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:02 pm to M1911
Can you find that private property language in the statutes?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:04 pm to M1911
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provided that the force or violence used must be reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent such offense
that's probably the variable you'll run into
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:04 pm to tgrbaitn08
Why would the kid reach for a pretend gun if he didn't have one? Even if he hadn't seen Landry's gun yet?
"pew pew, go back inside old man!!!"
That doesn't make sense.
not that he needs to, but i dont think LAndry announced himself. I think he just shot him. Otherwise an unarmed 14 year old is going to scamper back over the fence if he's caught in the act.
"pew pew, go back inside old man!!!"
That doesn't make sense.
not that he needs to, but i dont think LAndry announced himself. I think he just shot him. Otherwise an unarmed 14 year old is going to scamper back over the fence if he's caught in the act.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:05 pm to Lester Earl
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not sure trespassing warrants one to the head.
and to say he saw him reach for something is weak, when no gun was found. People aren't stupid.
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my point is he didnt see him reach for anything. It's the oldest trick in the book to justify something like that.
Pretty sure cops use it all the time. Yes, even when no gun was found.
And can you prove he didn't see him reach for anything? Didn't think so.
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Can you find that private property language in the statutes?
One post above yours.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:05 pm to boom roasted
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Can you find that private property language in the statutes?
Sec. A of the Statute he just posted...
The use of force or violence upon the person of another is justifiable when committed for the purpose of preventing a forcible offense against the person or a forcible offense or trespass against property in a person's lawful possession, provided that the force or violence used must be reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent such offense, and that this Section shall not apply where the force or violence results in a homicide.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:06 pm to Lester Earl
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not that he needs to, but i dont think LAndry announced himself. I think he just shot him.
Allegedly, the kid heard him coming up so he didn't need to announce himself. He didn't need to announce himself, period.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:06 pm to M1911
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Pretty sure cops use it all the time. Yes, even when no gun was found.
And can you prove he didn't see him reach for anything? Didn't think so.
I really dont care about the court aspect at all. Just discussing what really happened.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:08 pm to Lester Earl
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do you really think there is a possibility the kid reached for a pretend gun in hopes of scaring the guy with the real gun aimed at his head? Why would he do that? why wouldn't he run?
More than likely, in the heat of the moment where you realize you are about to confront someone trying to harm or rob your family, any movement was innocently and honestly mistaken for a move for a weapon.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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provided that the force or violence used must be reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent such offense
that's probably the variable you'll run into
That's the entire point of the argument.
He didn't kill him though so that helps. RS 14:19 wouldn't apply if he had.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:08 pm to Lester Earl
Bc it happens man. I've had it happen to me.
It happens to banks and convenience stores all the time. They will hide their hand under their shirt and act like they have a gun to scare the victim. Or act like they're reaching in their waist line for a gun to make you believe they're reaching for a gun.
It happens to banks and convenience stores all the time. They will hide their hand under their shirt and act like they have a gun to scare the victim. Or act like they're reaching in their waist line for a gun to make you believe they're reaching for a gun.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:09 pm to GRTiger
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More than likely, in the heat of the moment where you realize you are about to confront someone trying to harm or rob your family, any movement was innocently and honestly mistaken for a move for a weapon.
yea, i can definitely see that.
I just don't think he knew Landry was there at all.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:12 pm to boom roasted
No, but I think he's a veg.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:12 pm to boom roasted
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Did the kid die?
No.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:13 pm to M1911
Where there is a paragraph A, there is also a paragraph B, to-wit:
The shooter wasn't inside the property he was protecting.
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B. For the purposes of this Section, there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of force or violence was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto, or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle, if both of the following occur:
The shooter wasn't inside the property he was protecting.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:13 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Bc it happens man. I've had it happen to me.
It happens to banks and convenience stores all the time. They will hide their hand under their shirt and act like they have a gun to scare the victim. Or act like they're reaching in their waist line for a gun to make you believe they're reaching for a gun.
I know it happens, but not on someone else's home turf. Maybe a 5% chance of that happening, if that high.
Landry had a gun. He wasn't going to hide it and see what the kid did. He likely had it drawn on him the whole time. Why would he not? If he truly felt threatened.
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