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re: Government Street is a cluster! Who’s idea was it?
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:49 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:49 pm to CitizenK
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Less traffic means less shoppers
Yep. I wanted to grab a quick lunch on government on my way to the house from downtown. Traffic was backed up from Acadian to French Truck coffee. so, harkening back to this thread, I turned left and drifted over the North street. I got all the way to foster and turned right. This little detour took me an extra 10 minutes with lights (about the same as if I'd sat in traffic on government. I ran out of time and went home and made a sammich. Business on government lost today.
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:50 pm to Motorboat
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I ran out of time and went home and made a sammich. Business on government lost today.
Maybe some of that traffic is people returning to "normal life" after the Pandemic.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:50 pm to Epic Cajun
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Where has Lafayette tried this?
Don't know of an area in Lafayette that did this.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:53 pm to GreenRockTiger
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I thought the whole point was to revitalize government st - more business, more local hangouts, etc. so why make the road smaller if more traffic is what is wanted?
They wanted more pedestrian traffic and a different type of businesses. More bars and restaurants as you've mentioned; fewer Walgreens or Racetrack gas stations.
Hard to gauge their success right now because business across the board was down during the pandemic (and construction never seems to be getting done). But they will probably find success in improving the appeal of Government street as a walkable entertainment/dining corridor.
I'd say that this is a stupid project if North Blvd and Florida Street weren't right there. But they are. Just need to learn to use them because they flow pretty well most of the time. Government Street is probably the only street where you can pull this off in Baton Rouge.
Unfortunately I could also name a half dozen streets that need to go on the opposite of a diet. Including Airline, Choctaw, Old Hammond, Nicholson, Sharp, Hooper, Old Jefferson, etc.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:55 pm to goofball
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Hard to gauge their success right now because business across the board was down during the pandemic (and construction never seems to be getting done). But they will probably find success in improving the appeal of Government street as a walkable entertainment/dining corridor.
They need to keep crime down if they really want the area to flourish
A friend of mine ate lunch at Elsie's and had a window to their vehicle smashed/items stolen. Weird thing is they were parked in the Elsie's parking lot
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:04 pm to Motorboat
So moral of the story is leave downtown via North Blvd. Don't go Government until you hit traffic and then try and weave over to North Blvd.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:05 pm to Tigeralum2008
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They need to keep crime down if they really want the area to flourish
A friend of mine ate lunch at Elsie's and had a window to their vehicle smashed/items stolen. Weird thing is they were parked in the Elsie's parking lot
Car break ins will happen in the city. Police presence will help with that. So will street parking. But most of Government street isn't what I'd consider "dangerous".
I've spent a lot of time there until about 2011. I think the crime is better in mid city than it was 20 years ago before Capital Heights started it's resurgence. Even Ogden Park now is seeing some interest, although that area still borders some shady neighborhoods. Lots of home renovations in that area. There are even a couple of higher end apartment buildings going in, including one sort of across the street from Curbside. The residents in a handful of those areas around Goodwood, Capitol Heights, and the Garden District pay neighborhood fees to have OT police officers patrol their neighborhood specifically. That's helped a lot.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:06 pm to BottomlandBrew
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So moral of the story is leave downtown via North Blvd.
North Blvd has an overpass over the rail road tracks. It is an ideal route to go east into mid city in part because of that. And because no one has figured out that it exists yet, as proven by this thread.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:21 pm to goofball
When I worked downtown and lived off of Acadian @ Government, I used North Blvd exclusively. It was quick, no train, and less potholes.
I do get the argument about North Blvd ending at BRCC. I know at one point there were talks about installing roundabouts in at Foster/North and Foster/Government to help traffic flow better. That was a decade or more ago. I think it would be a good idea on paper, but most BR drivers aren't smart enough to correctly navigate an interchange that requires logic to get from one side to the other.
I do get the argument about North Blvd ending at BRCC. I know at one point there were talks about installing roundabouts in at Foster/North and Foster/Government to help traffic flow better. That was a decade or more ago. I think it would be a good idea on paper, but most BR drivers aren't smart enough to correctly navigate an interchange that requires logic to get from one side to the other.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:38 pm to loogaroo
I always thought it was a stupid project to do.
You got 3 of the largest high schools in BR (BRHS,CHS,SJA), a community college, and a largely populated Catholic school that all flows into Govt street...
And what BR leaders do? “Let’s slim it down”
What in the entire fuk?!?!
BR problems LOL.
You got 3 of the largest high schools in BR (BRHS,CHS,SJA), a community college, and a largely populated Catholic school that all flows into Govt street...
And what BR leaders do? “Let’s slim it down”
What in the entire fuk?!?!
BR problems LOL.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:44 pm to piratedude
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there are 900 households in capital heights alone that can support many businesses, and will if it is safe and pleasant. no one wants to bar hop on sidewalks next to 4 lanes of traffic going 40+ and jockeying for position.
I agree with this. I remember White light night or whatever it's called a couple of years ago pre road diet. We were walking from Calandro's/Curbside to white star and people were driving like they were Mario Andretti
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:49 pm to Tounces
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I agree with this. I remember White light night or whatever it's called a couple of years ago pre road diet. We were walking from Calandro's/Curbside to white star and people were driving like they were Mario Andretti
They had to do this IMO. It's good for the neighborhoods and for pedestrian safety.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:59 pm to BottomlandBrew
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When I worked downtown and lived off of Acadian @ Government
And you lived to tell about it. WOW!
The OT is baffled.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 5:00 pm to goofball
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Don't know of an area in Lafayette that did this.
Same, I wasn’t even being argumentative I just don’t know anywhere that has reduced lanes like this to make a more “neighborhood” friendly vibe.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 5:04 pm to Tounces
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Tounces
You still have my avi and sig pics, baw.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 5:06 pm to goofball
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Maybe some of that traffic is people returning to "normal life" after the Pandemic.
Maybe, but even with heavy traffic in the past, I could scoot all over government.
I'll keep trying to go on North- it was indeed dead, with lots of potholes.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:50 am to goofball
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And you lived to tell about it. WOW!
The OT is baffled.
Indeed, I did survive. I only have a few scars from bullets. I lived in those old red brick apartments right there behind the CVS/Catholic.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:09 am to goofball
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North Blvd has an overpass over the rail road tracks. It is an ideal route to go east into mid city in part because of that. And because no one has figured out that it exists yet, as proven by this thread.
That’s a big plus. A big negative is it ends at Foster.
Government has always been a key artery for commuters coming from Broadmoor, Sherwood, Jefferson, Goodood, Jeff. Terrace, Tara area to Downtown and to LSU. Old Hammond, Jefferson Hwy. all funneled into Government which was a prime artery for 100 years.
Shrinking Government St.the natural artery to Downtown and mid city ftom the SE isn’t as easy as saying take N Blvd. which doesn’t connect easily to the areas I listed.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:32 am to BottomlandBrew
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I lived in those old red brick apartments right there behind the CVS/Catholic.
The Patrician? Those are nice. Or at least they were when I moved to Baton Rouge.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:33 am to doubleb
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Shrinking Government St.the natural artery to Downtown and mid city ftom the SE isn’t as easy as saying take N Blvd. which doesn’t connect easily to the areas I listed.
I think they do something similar to North Blvd if they ever figure out their grand plan of adding street car service. They came pretty close towards the end of Holden's tenure.
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