Started By
Message

re: Good news for Lake Charles area - Commonwealth LNG moving forward in Cameron Parish

Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Immaterial


immaterial for a parish of 5k to have 10k new workers in it for a few years?

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4282 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

You’ve just been trolling the whole time.

Confirmed


I wasn't trolling. You said if the project went somewhere else the parish wouldnt get any tax, I think we can all agree on this without it being said.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4282 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

immaterial for a parish of 5k to have 10k new workers in it for a few years?


How much money do you think these temporary workers are dropping in Cameron and Calcasieu Parish?

Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

You said if the project went somewhere else the parish wouldnt get any tax, I think we can all agree on this without it being said.


So are you now agreeing that ITEPs are beneficial in both the short term and long term benefit for the area?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4282 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

immaterial for a parish of 5k to have 10k new workers in it for a few years?


Neither of these parishes collect sales tax on groceries or drugs. This limits the sales tax revenue to primarily gasoline, alcohol and tobacco. Also, I bet these temporary workers like to bunk together to save money.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

How much money do you think these temporary workers are dropping in Cameron and Calcasieu Parish?


It’s not hard to figure out: rent, utilities, gas, food, etc.

That’s just the necessities. Now throw in that many only go home once a month, then you have entertainment, restaurants, bars, shopping.

RV spots are about $500/month. 3 bed homes in Cameron will rent for between $2-3k a month

Let’s just be super conservative here and say the avg anyone spends in a month locally is $500 x 5000 workers (half the actual at peak) and that’s $2.5M per month. Comes out to over $100k per month in sales tax that wouldn’t be there otherwise
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5197 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Neither of these parishes collect sales tax on groceries or drugs. This limits the sales tax revenue to primarily gasoline, alcohol and tobacco.


Bet they never eat out, buy new work clothes, tires, truck nutz, ect
Posted by LootieandtheBlowfish
Houston/BR
Member since Aug 2021
569 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Also, I bet these temporary workers like to bunk together to save money.


But they also buy a lot of

quote:

gasoline, alcohol and tobacco
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

This limits the sales tax revenue to primarily gasoline, alcohol and tobacco.


You haven’t been around construction much have you?

quote:

Also, I bet these temporary workers like to bunk together to save money.


You will absolutely have 3 people in a 3 bedroom house. Still paying $750-$1000 in rent to the landlord
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Neither of these parishes collect sales tax on groceries or drugs


the cities do though on groceries and on plenty of other things

and i doubt many will be buying drugs, these guys are tested pretty often.


Whats your opinion on ITEP?
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7984 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:26 pm to
F*ck Tellurian. Lost my childhood home to those bastards.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Whats your opinion on ITEP?


They are conveniently ignoring this question
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4282 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

So are you now agreeing that ITEPs are beneficial in both the short term and long term benefit for the area?


I can 100% see local support. At the minimum this breeds opportunity for the area.

I know most of you dont care but there are definitely environmental concerns. One mistake could wipe out the entire lot come year 8, 9, 10.

My last question is regarding the property before the exemption was issued. Who was paying the property tax prior?




Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:30 pm to
very conveniently
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4282 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Bet they never eat out, buy new work clothes, tires, truck nutz, ect



You really think tax on these items is going to put a dent in your budgeted costs for the parishes? LOL
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

My last question is regarding the property before the exemption was issued. Who was paying the property tax prior?


The property owner. Since it’s undeveloped land, they are only paying the property tax on the value of the land. After the exemption is over, the company is paying for the value of the property after all the upgrades
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

I know most of you dont care but there are definitely environmental concerns. One mistake could wipe out the entire lot come year 8, 9, 10.


no most of us live here and are avid outdoorsman...despite what you think, most of us care dearly about the environmental concerns

but with LNG much less concerns than others

and with anything there are concerns. we didnt build our current modern lifestyle on fairy dust and not taking chances.

but we also have extreme safety and environmental protocols in place to prevent these types of accidents. never been an incident in the US that wiped a whole LNG plant off for good, even freeport opened back up after like 8-9 months
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4282 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

and i doubt many will be buying drugs, these guys are tested pretty often.


Prescribed medication, not street drugs.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58233 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:36 pm to
So now you are back to telling everyone how much you know and not just trying to learn about this?

Just go ahead and tell us what liberal group you work for since you've now brought "environmental" concerns into the discussion.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

You really think tax on these items is going to put a dent in your budgeted costs for the parishes? LOL


ummm yea

calc parish only has 200k residents so even a 5% bump is big

cameron only has like 5k, so talking doubling/tripling the amount

for being in finance, you sure are being dense
first pageprev pagePage 8 of 9Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram