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re: Good areas to live in around DFW?

Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:10 am to
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:10 am to
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She’s about to be offered there I think. Damn is downtown Dallas a hike from a lot of places that we’d like.


Well then route from UT to Grapevine would be the best bet. Love the Southlake, Grapevine & Colleyville area. Lots of young families that love the schools. Los Colinas along 114 has some nice areas and is half the travel time just know nothing about the schools. Just stay a good bit North of 183 and you’ll be fine.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 8:13 am
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:34 am to
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Seems like you can’t really live in Dallas proper unless you make 200k. You need a 700k house to not live in the hood and then good private schools (10k per kid at least?) if you don’t live in HPISD. You can live in Plano or whatever but even that sucks and how the hell do you commute downtown? 45 minutes?

Seems like if you don’t get a job in fort worth you’re fricked. Somebody explain this to me cause it doesn’t make sense


DFW Metro has become one of the most expensive places to live in the south. If you're going into an office every day, I never would even consider some of the places that have been named here. Melissa, Argyle, Parker County, etc.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:43 am to
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Somebody explain this to me cause it doesn’t make sense


Tesla
Caterpillar
AT&T
Landsea Homes
CBRE
Oracle
Hewlett Packard
Apple
Amazon
Goldman Sachs

Just to name a few that have moved to Texas, these are all high paying jobs so everything has gone through the roof.

Companies are hitching their wagons to Texas due to its business-friendly environment, low taxes, minimal regulations, and a rapidly growing talent pool.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:54 am to
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She’s about to be offered there I think. Damn is downtown Dallas a hike from a lot of places that we’d like.




This is how it is in Dallas... You have a 45min commute one way or pay out the nose to live close and put your kids in private school.

This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:10 am
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7137 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:31 am to
Example of what we are dealing with here in DFW.

-Fortune 500 company gets tired of California tomfoolery & relocates itself & all of its employees to DFW. Employees sell their average home in California for $1.3 million & get the relocation package to DFW. Some for much more. Some for less. They then buy a home in DFW for cash for $800K & pocket the rest.

This happens over & over & over. It drives the cost of housing up tremendously over time for the people who are already here or trying to move here. If you are looking in the city of Dallas proper above I-30 you realistically need at least $400-500K for a 2 bedroom CONDO in a decent area just to start. We haven't even gotten into home prices yet. You would probably need to start at least $600K for homes in a decent area. Probably more.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:03 am to
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You would probably need to start at least $600K for homes in decent area. Probably more.


That’s what I’m seeing as well. We aren’t at that price range, yet. Which is why it’s a bit difficult and frustrating for someone moving from Bossier to the area. We’re selling our brand new house that was built in 2021 and 1900 sf in the best school district in the parish for under $300K and couldn’t even sniff that price point for the same amount of house over there in an ok area.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:04 am to
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That’s what I’m seeing as well. We aren’t at that price range, yet. Which is why it’s a bit difficult and frustrating for someone moving from Bossier to the area. We’re selling our brand new house that was built in 2021 and 1900 sf in the best school district in the parish for under $300K and couldn’t even sniff that price point for the same amount of house over there in an ok area.



you can in Fort Worth
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:05 am to
I feel your pain. We moved from Dallas to Austin last year and the housing market was crazy. We still have a small condo in Dallas that we're renting out but it's not big enough to move back into should we return to Dallas
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4992 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:06 am to
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300K and couldn’t even sniff that price point for the same amount of house over there in an ok area.



For comparison, $300k will maybe get you a small starter home in the burbs in a good school district.

Also factor in the $10k/yr for property taxes
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:09 am to
You mentioned outside sales and basically driving around DFW in your OP. Your new job will cover that wide of an area M-F? And your wife may consider working at UTSW Dallas campus?
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:10 am
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:10 am to
Plano
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:20 am to
I loved living in Addison. It was close enough to the office and close enough to go to other parts of Dallas.

Honestly though you need to get a place that’s easy to get to work. Traffic can be crazy. And the toll roads can get expensive. I had someone driving in from Ft. Worth every day and it was costing her almost $40 a day in tolls.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:31 am to

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Honestly though you need to get a place that’s easy to get to work. Traffic can be crazy.


I'd be worried for them that within a year, they're going to hate life. There's many 'nice places' to raise a very young family that have been mentioned but so many suggestions would be a total bitch day after day where they'll be commuting. May not be a popular move but I swear I'd consider renting for the first year and get used to the Metroplex for a bit. The wife would go postal driving in from a ton of these suburbs listed.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:33 am to
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May not be a popular move but I swear I'd consider renting for the first year and get used to the Metroplex for a bit.


not a bad idea, gives interest rates a chance to possibly lower

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. The wife would go postal driving in from a ton of these suburbs listed.



sounds like he's the one that should be concerned with traffic, she'll be going to the same place every day
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:37 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9696 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:36 am to
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You mentioned outside sales and basically driving around DFW in your OP. Your new job will cover that wide of an area M-F? And your wife may consider working at UTSW Dallas campus?


My area would consist of southeast Dallas and continuing out in that direction pretty much all the way to College Station from what I understand.

And yes, my wife is seriously considering the oncology center at UTSW-Dallas. But she’s still looking at other options, as well.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9696 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:46 am to
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May not be a popular move but I swear I'd consider renting for the first year and get used to the Metroplex for a bit.


I get what you’re saying, I do. But man I’d just hate throwing away money on rent every month and there’s no guarantee that the rates come down either.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:48 am to
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I’d just hate throwing away money on rent every month


it would not be throwing it away, it would be serving its purpose, no guarantee that interest rates will come down but in this case it's worth waiting to see, tax advantages of homeownership aren't what they used to be, you wouldn't be taking a hit to rent for a year
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:57 am to
Hmm, ok. Just don't drop her in Anna, Argyle, Flower Mound (and many others listed) right off the bat She may strangle you. Have daycare needs as well I assume?
Posted by Fletch1985
Member since Jun 2020
284 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:58 am to
With that territory, look at Heath. Sort of Rockwall south. Family type suburbs. Can get into downtown without going over the lake. You will hate life driving from most of the northern suburbs every day.

If you end up needing something more central, look at Coppell. It was said but lots of Indians because schools are so good. Do a search for rentals in Coppell and you’ll see some good values relative to buying for 80’s ranch style homes that dominate that initial outer ring of Dallas.
Posted by Melkor
Member since Sep 2022
129 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:02 am to
Its even worse than that. LLCs are buying up the land that does exist (ex. west of DFW) to work with DR Hortons and the like, so there is no market for buying your own land and building privately. Naturally most of the homes they produce have no yards and are cookie cutter starters that are waaaaay overvalued.

Those LLCs are offerring top dollar and threaten lawsuits on cities if they don't allow them to rezone for high density (which the politicans easily roll over on claiming not wanting to 'waste tax payer money fighting it' while typically getting a nice kickback in the deal.

Also on the traffic, it sucks EVERYWHERE around Dallas. I35 (E or W ie near FW), I30 (good for a daily fender bender), 183, 114 around Las Colinas, anything north of Dallas, the 635 parking lot, etc. Basically the entire Dallas area is Essen & College at I-10. There's only so many routes to take and a lot more vehicles.

Driving advice I was given when moving there that held true every year: drive as fast as you can. Any slower you will get ran over. Any faster and you can't handle it and wreck. Suburban mom drivers will do everything they can to cut you off and stop short in front of you.
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