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re: Girl suspended from high school for being brutally beaten by boy dressing as girl

Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9632 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:31 pm to
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I want these people to have the best possible outcome.


But you support the party pushing permanent damage and lies.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42397 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:31 pm to
Gtfo with those facts.

Sammy has some castrations to support with our tax dollars!
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38090 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:31 pm to
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And in 20 years of posting here I've learned that if the board thinks I'm wrong, then I'm most definitely right.



Well folks, TX Tiger is wrong again.

History has proven otherwise. Sorry, try again later.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42397 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:36 pm to
If they are adults, and they want to mutilate their body…cool (as long as the taxpayer isn’t paying for it).

As for children, if they are subjected to this, then that is child abuse.

Lastly, the vast majority of “trans” people are simply cross-dressing gays.

The data (massive European studies that cover multiple decades) illustrates that 80+ % of “trans” children are what I described above.

The other 20- % are mainly just mentally ill individuals that make up the vast majority suicides associated with this phenomenon.

That is evidenced by the number of suicides actually going up after transitioning.


Hank used to push this nonsense.

He used bullshite “evidence” to support his stance. I methodically blew up his gibberish.

I also put forth some theories about his personal circumstances. Let’s just say that I probably hit pretty close to home.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78347 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:39 pm to
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They used several control groups.


They looked at 4 groups
using coding index
A: People who had sexual reassignment surgery and a emergency visit
B People who had an emergency visit
C. People who had a vasectomy or tubal ligation and an emergency visit
D. People who had acute pharyngitis and an emergency visit

Again, insane controls.

after reviewing 100 studies they just criticized the studies. they didn’t come up with that suicide rates are worse post-op.

and again like i think you said, Gender affirmative care doesn’t always mean a sex change.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9632 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:41 pm to
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History has proven otherwise. Sorry, try again later.


Similar to trans you self-identifying as being right doesn’t make it so.

This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87208 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:45 pm to
It should be pretty easy to compare the suicide rate found in the study for those who did surgery vs suicide rates of trans who did not get surgery. Most studies show 5-7x rate if trans vs non-trans. This study is 12x. Can we conclude that surgeries are not shown to be beneficial at least? If not harmful?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38090 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:50 pm to
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History has proven otherwise. Sorry, try again later.



Similar to trans you self-identifying as being right doesn’t make it so.

Good one.

No, historically speaking I've proven out to be right about 99.9 percent on this board. Granted, sometimes it's taken years to be proven out.

Now, there's really no concrete proof either way, but I'm sticking with my claim that gay people are born that way.

I think people don't want to admit that because it would mean accepting that their "God" isn't perfect.

Are there young people influenced? Of course there are. But that number is so minuscule it shouldn't matter. And why should we care enough to demonize them if they are?
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57268 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:53 pm to
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what goalposts am I setting?


You smugly and sarcastically dismissed taxpayer funded surgeries because not ALL that transition are taxpayer funded.

You’re a disingenuous hack.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
2627 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:59 pm to
Oh please, give me a break. If you want to say something, say it with your chest out. Don't start backtracking. Let me guess though, you're not backtracking and I just didn't understand.

I tell you what, make it real simple for me. Summarize what was supposed to be taken from your post. Because what I got was you making a statement about the LGBT community.

quote:

1st hand account of the alphabet culture


So here is what culture stands for: A cultural group is defined simply as a collection of individuals who share a core set of beliefs, patterns of behavior, and values. The groups may be large or small, but they are identified by their ways of thinking and behaving.

So have we established that you are outlining what you feel is LGBT culture using the quote from someone within that group, i.e. the first hand account?

quote:

In gay male culture it's viewed


So again, there is that word culture. So we're saying it's one of their core beliefs that gay men should take in younger gays?

quote:

Leftwing psychology has fully embraced


This one does not have many, some, or a few. So I'm going to have to work off the impression that they are in fact referencing the entire group.

quote:

Gay male culture is built on


There is that word again. Culture. As in a core belief.

quote:

The entire culture views


Man I don't know about you but entire certainly feels like it is an absolute. Their entire core belief as a group of people.

So again, if the intent of your post was not to indicate that you feel any gay man that is not right wing is a groomer, I will be more than glad to listen. I can certainly be bias when I see so many people here label everyone with a different political view as evil, that I am quick to jump the gun.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78347 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 4:59 pm to
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That is evidenced by the number of suicides actually going up after transitioning.


not actually supported by data.
a having that argument now.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87208 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 5:03 pm to
There isn’t much out there showing it helps at all. The ones that do are bias based on the guardian article.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9632 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 5:09 pm to
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My claim has and continues to be that gay people are born that way, not taught to be.


Has something genetically or tangible with the human body proven this that can be tested?

That would mean with identical twins if one is gay that both are gay. Is that correct?

And does this involve pitching and catching or just one or the other. It must just be a lucky coincidence that so many born gay males end up in prison, but Tony said based on length of sentence pitchers can get a pass.

Are pedophiles also born that way? Is there a test that will show this in the womb? If sexual preference can be tested Dems could “cure” pedophilia like Iceland “cured” Down’s syndrome…
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87208 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 5:10 pm to
LINK

A study that had to be retracted saying that GAS were beneficial.

quote:

It is SEGM’s view that the data presented in the original study and the subsequent re-analysis do not support the claim of an expected "reduction in mental health treatment as a function of time since completing such treatment” (14). After the reanalysis of the data, we conclude the following:

The mental health needs of people suffering from gender dysphoria are significantly greater than those of the general population, which confirms previous research

No mental health benefit of hormonal interventions was demonstrated

No mental health benefit of "gender-affirming" surgery was demonstrated

Specific to the question of longitudinal association between time from surgery and mental health outcomes, due to unaddressed study design limitations, no improvement of mental health with time after surgery was demonstrated

Despite the higher rate of suicide attempts requiring hospitalization in the "surgery" group, the study design precludes the assertion that that "gender-affirming" surgery is harmful
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42397 posts
Posted on 10/18/24 at 6:48 pm to
Here, let me fix it for you:

Many gay men view children as tiny adults, capable of adult sexual expression and autonomy.

Pedos are exponentially more likely to occur within the gay male than straight male community.

Regardless, gay or straight, the millstone consequence is appropriate imho.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
2627 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:34 am to
I mean if we are going by definition, yes gay men are more likely to pedos than straight men. Because if a Catholic priest raped a choir boy, he is a gay man. He can say he is straight, he could have lived his life as a straight man, but he is gay.

But many men who pretended to be straight and gained access to young boys have repeatedly abused them. The church, Boy Scouts, Hollywood, and many others.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7441 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 7:31 am to
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wonder what kind of parents they’re running away from.


The kind that tells their brainwashed teenage son they can't suck a grown man's dick for money.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
38085 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 7:38 am to
This is well-known in the medical community.

It is only recently that groups have attempted to rewrite research and out and out lie about results.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 7:53 am to
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Why don’t you try using long term data, involving large groups of people.


This. A 15 year old girl who had her breasts removed at 14 very well may still be happy with her procedure.

But what's her opinion at 25?
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17928 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 8:35 am to
Funny, how years ago, people made fun of homeschooling...Cross-dressing has ALWAYS been a thing. It was just kept private. People have strange fetishes, fine. Keep them behind closed doors. You wanna dress like Big Bird? Great! Do it at home.
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