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re: Gear up for a paradigm shift in physics: elementary particle weighs more that predicted.

Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:03 pm to
Could be wrong but the way it works I believe the physicist use conservation of momentum and collide the unknown particle mass with a known particle mass. m1v1=m2v2. m1, v1 and v2 are known from doing the experiment and you solve for m2 after to determine the mass of the the W particle.

So it wasn't the mass they predicted and it skews the subatomic model. Oh well, need more money to figure it out.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:04 pm to
Dumbass Aggie, probably had his finger on the scale.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:04 pm to
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measured the mass of 4 million W bosons

What about the Z boson? How do these relate to Higgs Boson? Explain this to me like I'm 5.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:05 pm to
Damn Aggies ran out of stars to recruit on earth....
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:07 pm to
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But what gender are these particles?


Agies, so maybe non-binary?
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:10 pm to
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But what gender are these particles?


Heisenberg says you got to take a peak under the leiderhosen to be sure.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132807 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Explain this to me like I'm 5.



They didn't predict the mass of the W boson correctly. Now they have to go back to the drawing board.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:12 pm to
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It’s a good day when science has to admit it has been wrong for all of history
That's pretty much every day, and that's the point of it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132807 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:14 pm to
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It’s a good day when science has to admit it has been wrong for all of history

That's pretty much every day, and that's the point of it.



This 100% and love to see it. It's the pursuit of the truth that makes it fun.
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 3:17 pm
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:15 pm to
I hope they didn't use a scale calibrated for a spherical earth. Amateurs.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:20 pm to
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The grand explanation physicists use to describe how the universe works may have some major new flaws to patch after a fundamental particle was found to have more mass than scientists thought.
muh climate change is settled science
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:23 pm to
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elementary particle
this is GodKnats expertise, let me get with him and get back to you k
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132807 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:27 pm to
Just an FYI here are the previous mass predictions of the W boson versus what was observed:




Also note the units for mass. It's either in MeV/c^2 or GeV/c^2.

Remember the famous equation E=mc^2? Well solve for m, m = E/c^2. E is in Mev or Gev (mega electron volts or giga electron volts) and c is the speed of light. Divide E by c squared and you get the mass of the particle.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:32 pm to
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elementary particle weighs more that predicted.


Q predicted this.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:34 pm to
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it literally means something fundamental in our understanding of nature is wrong.”


Well damn. First we find out we no longer know the definition of what is a woman. Now it turns out we don’t even understand the fundamentals of nature. Mankind needs to get its shite together.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132807 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25379 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:39 pm to
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It’s a good day when science has to admit it has been wrong for all of history
That's pretty much every day, and that's the point of it.




Ok, organized religion you're up
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19459 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:52 pm to
I tried telling that a-hole LSU physics 1001 professor he didn't know his arse from a hole in the ground when he gave me that F
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 4:11 pm to
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I hope they didn't use a scale calibrated for a spherical earth. Amateurs.



Probably used an oblate spheroid.
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