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re: Gay man denied communion in Amite church

Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:29 am to
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:29 am to
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I just think this mentality is horrible. The fact that John Wayne Gacy who repents on his death bed for murdering countless people is somehow more worthy of heaven than Bill Gates, who has saved thousands of lives but just happens to be an atheist. Does anyone besides me realize how insane that sounds?

I agree, and I'm not an atheist.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:29 am to
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seems to me the church missed an opportunity to save a lost soul


So you're into forcing people into being saved...against their free will?

Receiving communion under mortal sin will not save you.

All the Chruch can do is communicate the normal way to salvation. The recipient needs accept it. It's a two way street.

Unfortunately most people reject the message. Mostly because they are filled with pride.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87750 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:31 am to
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To be honest, that is the very definition of a Methodist...half-assed Catholic



Varies. Some Methodist congregations are quite conservative, Christ-centered and evangelical, thus nothing like the Catholic church.

But in general the Methodists are trending Episcopalian, while the Episcopalians are trending unitarian universalist.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:32 am to
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How would they even know he was gay ... did he make some pronouncement?


It had nothing to do with being gay.

It had everything to do with announcing that he was in a SSM.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:33 am to
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Gay man denied communion in Amite church



That'll learn em not to sin.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:35 am to
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the guy wasn't aware of the churches stance on the issue


Then he wasn't Catholic and shouldn't have been "in line" anyway. If he was Catholic, he'd have known better. Going to church on Easter and Christmas and when your mom dies isn't Catholic.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86753 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:35 am to
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So you're into forcing people into being saved...against their free will?


wait...what?

quote:

Receiving communion under mortal sin will not save you.


right, but maybe if he received communion he would have started going to church more and miraculously stopped liking the penis?

Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:36 am to
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Gay man denied communion in Amite church


Bye Felicia
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86753 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:36 am to
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Then he wasn't Catholic and shouldn't have been "in line" anyway. If he was Catholic, he'd have known better.


Did you read the article? It appears some of the higher ups in the Catholic Church disagree with you
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87750 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:38 am to
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Then he wasn't Catholic and shouldn't have been "in line" anyway. If he was Catholic, he'd have known better. Going to church on Easter and Christmas and when your mom dies isn't Catholic.



Catholics are outright anti-bringing folks in at this point.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8349 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:39 am to
Exactly, don't partake in the sacrament if you don't know the meaning, and then try and change it.
The priest would have gladly given him a blessing, probably still did
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:39 am to
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more worthy of heaven than Bill Gates, who has saved thousands of lives but just happens to be an atheist.

Well he doesn't even believe in heaven, so that's kinda an issue.

Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4746 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:40 am to
Tom Ardillo... Thought it said Ardildo for a second. Had to make sure it wasnt The Onion.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 9:13 am
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:40 am to
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Did you read the article? It appears some of the higher ups in the Catholic Church disagree with you


I read the article. And the higher ups are saying it was on this gay man to know better than to get in line. They say he should not have been in denied, but based on the teachings of the church, he should not have been in line.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:42 am to
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Catholics are outright anti-bringing folks in at this point.


Know how I know you aren't Catholic? The Catholic Church's "come as you are" policy is very welcoming.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:42 am to
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Catholics are outright anti-bringing folks in at this point

Maybe they're just pro-standing up for beliefs and not buckling to the social issue du jour?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87750 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:43 am to
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Maybe they're just pro-standing up for beliefs and not buckling to the social issue du jour?



I'm referring to the tone of another poster, not this particular incident. It's not like the Catholic church isn't still home to a ton of SJWs anyway, so I'm not sure how much refusing to buckle they're doing.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 8:44 am
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:43 am to
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I'm referring to the tone of another poster, not this particular incident


So you are projecting the attitudes of a poster on TD to the Catholic Church? That makes sense.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86753 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:45 am to
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They say he should not have been in denied


but he did get in line and he was denied

seems to me that the Catholic Church can be a bit confusing
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29915 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:45 am to
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The priest would have gladly given him a blessing, probably still did


Exactly how I handled it at my niece's wedding last year. Got in line, then crossed my arms and bowed my head for the blessing when it was my turn.

I did not run to the nearest media outlet to condemn the Church for refusing the Eucharist to me. Let the Catholics live by their rules, I'll live by my church's rules. Hopefully, we'll all get together in Heaven and have a grand ole time.
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