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re: Gay man denied communion in Amite church

Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:02 am to
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:02 am to
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Do you really think that had he not been gay he would have grown away from the church?


Do you really believe only gay people grow away from the Catholic Church? That is beyond absurd.

I was raised Catholic and my entire family is Catholic, but I never felt comfortable with some of the Church's teachings despite being straight.

I am now a practicing Methodist. As my father says, he'd rather me be a full-blown Methodist than a half-assed Catholic like I was.

I still respect the Catholic Church, and because of that respect I decided to not try to get the Church to conform to MY views. Instead, I found a church that more closely reflects them.

The Church, BTW, does not hate gays. In fact, I'd wager that it's more likely the other way around.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:06 am to
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So he should be turned away?


Yep. Churches should not be bound by government. Don't like it? Find a new church that accepts you.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:06 am to
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I decided to not try to get the Church to conform to MY views. Instead, I found a church that more closely reflects them.


Amen. Amen.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:09 am to
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a full-blown Methodist than a half-assed Catholic


To be honest, that is the very definition of a Methodist...half-assed Catholic
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86753 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:09 am to
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I still respect the Catholic Church, and because of that respect I decided to not try to get the Church to conform to MY views. Instead, I found a church that more closely reflects them.


the guy wasn't aware of the churches stance on the issue

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Ardillo said he would have stayed out of line if the matter had been broached before his mother’s funeral Mass.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29915 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:10 am to
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To be honest, that is the very definition of a Methodist...half-assed Catholic


Bwaaaahhaaaaahhaaaahhaaaaaahhhaaaaaa!!!!!
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159142 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:12 am to
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I decided to not try to get the Church to conform to MY views. Instead, I found a church that more closely reflects them.
quote:

I am now a practicing Methodist
"Let the hearer conform to the word, and not the word to the hearer" -- John Wesley
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29915 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:13 am to
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the guy wasn't aware of the churches stance on the issue


I find that VERY hard to believe, especially since his whole family is Catholic, and so is the vast majority of people who live/grow up in Amite, LA.

The guy got his 15 minutes. Good for him. Next up: an appearance on The Ellen DeGeneres Show.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:14 am to
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If that's the case, he should refuse communion to every able-bodied male, since masturbation is a sin.


If you repented for beating off, just like if you repented for gay sex and the rest of your sins you can then go to communion.

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159142 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:16 am to
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To be honest, that is the very definition of a Methodist...half-assed Catholic
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To be honest, that is the very definition of a Methodist...half-assed Baptist
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To be honest, that is the very definition of an Episcopalian...half-assed Catholic
FIFY
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86753 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:18 am to
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If you repented for beating off, just like if you repented for gay sex and the rest of your sins you can then go to communion.


seems to me the church missed an opportunity to save a lost soul

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He had thought the funeral would serve as a reintroduction into the Catholic community, but not anymore.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:20 am to
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the guy wasn't aware of the churches stance on the issue



And this is a legit issue. The diocese call the priest out on this issue. The diocese did not disagree with the priest doctrinally but they did disagree with him stylistically.

But you can see how the two issues can be confused (based on the the simple fact that people are so poorly chatecized).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:22 am to
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That's sad man. Jesus said to do it to remember him. He didn't say do it only if you have met certain criteria.


Wrong. The criteria Jesus specifically said was to repent.

Repenting (assuming it's sincere) gets you into a state of grace.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26246 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:24 am to
How would they even know he was gay ... did he make some pronouncement?
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:24 am to
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Right, you need to be in a state of grace.
(to receive communion)

Well, that's maybe, what, 0.0000000000001% of the population?
Posted by Sandy_Ash
Member since Feb 2015
1162 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:24 am to
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Did he deny it to a ridiculously fat person for gluttony?
okayyyyy
Posted by Sandy_Ash
Member since Feb 2015
1162 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:25 am to
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seems to me the church missed an opportunity to save a lost soul


He had thought the funeral would serve as a reintroduction into the Catholic community, but not anymore.



no and no
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8349 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:26 am to
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How would they even know he was gay ... did he make some pronouncement?





It was written in his mother's obituary from what ive seen regarding topic
Posted by Sandy_Ash
Member since Feb 2015
1162 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:28 am to
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The guy acknowledged his gay marriage in the obituary,
wow, yep gay dude was trying to make a political statement.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23659 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:28 am to
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Well, that's maybe, what, 0.0000000000001% of the population?

That's why priests typically have confession before mass
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