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re: Gay man denied communion in Amite church

Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:53 am to
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:53 am to
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He likely didn't know.. But the priest knew likely by reading about who was being buried. So as protector of the Eucharist its his responsibility to not provide it to someone he knows is living in mortal sin. Many people get in line every week and simply go up and are not taking the Eucharist the priest typically gives them a blessing.


said it perfectly

the Priest of course doesn't know every aspect of every person in his church, but when is presiding over a funeral and reads the obituary that states that the son is married to man, then is duty bound by the church and God to not give this individual communion.

As Catholics we are suppose to take responsibility for our sins and ask god for forgiveness in confession. Its not hypocrisy, Because the church does not KNOWING allowing murders and rapist to receive communion unless they have made a confession.

Father Beard did nothing wrong in this case. He offered the man a blessing like he was suppose to but can not allow the man take communion according to the teachings of the catholic church
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:54 am to
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How many divorced but not annulled and remarried catholics are knowingly allowed to accept the eucharist? It seems like a fairly similar situation.



Well, a lot of these things remain private and one cannot assume. That is between them and God.

However, in this particular case, the guy was trying to "showcase" his sin IMO. It was well known and documented in the obit.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:54 am to
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the guy was trying to "showcase" his sin IMO. It was well known and documented in the obit




is the spouse of the children not normally listed in obits?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:55 am to
How in the world is this news? What could possibly motivate the progressives at the Advocate to print this?
Oh yeah, that's right, they want to bully the Church into conforming to their worldview.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:56 am to
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That's the church's fault?


how I that the church's fault??

as Catholics we are taught in school or CCD about the rules of being a catholic. Ardillo knew the rules he just choose to not listen to them
Posted by 81Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:57 am to
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And if he truly had a genuine interest in going to church more he would have talked to the priest privately afterwards about why exactly he was denied communion instead of running to the media.
Posted by brodeo
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:57 am to
My father has been denied communion for over 30 years because of a divorce that was never annulled. The church has pretty strict rules for being eligible for receiving communion.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:57 am to
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I personally have never seen or heard of any church, Catholic, Baptist, or any other denomination banning anyone from even attending based on the fact they've committed any particular sin.


HAve you met Westboro?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:57 am to
Yeah but grabbing your husband's hand and storming out is a little over the top
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:57 am to
Yes its normal assuming the family want it to be known.. Im not sure what your question is here.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 9:58 am
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:59 am to
He couldn't take of some in the mouth because he takes them in the mouth.

Who goes to church announcing to the world they purposely repeat acts that their chosen religion considers a sin? It's like walking up front while telling everyone I joined my neighbor, the Muslim, yesterday to hump some goats.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:59 am to
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Im not sure what your question is here


it was to Moustache to how was the guy "showcasing" his sin by listing his husband in the obit
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:00 am to
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maybe


Great. Until then, he is not in communion until he confesses and repents from the sin of disordered sexual relations.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:02 am to
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Mind you, Catholics are welcome to take communion in my church, no questions asked. We're not stingy with it.




Well, that's because you guys view it as just bread and just wine and a "symbol."

The Catholics view it as the body and blood of Christ with actual divinity. Not as just a symbol.

I can see why the Methodists don't really have high regard for it if it's just a symbol.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:04 am to
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Yeah but grabbing your husband's hand and storming out is a little over the top


Oh my God! These people are so intolerant! Let's go, puddin-butt!
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:06 am to
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it was to Moustache to how was the guy "showcasing" his sin by listing his husband in the obit

If he wasn't showcasing it, he would stayed in his seat and nobody would have thought anything.

For my fellow Catholics ITT, what do you think of the Diocese's reaction to this? What are they apologizing for? Sends a mixed message, to say the least.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 10:09 am
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:06 am to
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is the spouse of the children not normally listed in obits?


I'm not saying he's wrong to list it in the obits, but it's clear he was thinking he'd show off and get communion from his comments about how it looked to the younger gay family member and the other gay family member who went and drug him back in after he stormed out.

He admits he grew up catholic and attended church often with his mother. Then certainly he knew that a person living a homosexual lifestyle cannot receive the Eucharist.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:07 am to
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And if he truly had a genuine interest in going to church more he would have talked to the priest privately afterwards about why exactly he was denied communion instead of running to the media.


THIS.

He wouldve had a conversation with the Church about what sins he needed to repent from (all of them of course) and get a clear understanding if he truly didn't know.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:08 am to
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If he wasn't showcasing it, he would stayed in his seat and nobody would have thought anything.


apparently he was confused on the Catholic Churches stance on this, or at least wasn't aware of it

he wanted to have an "intimate experience" with his mother one last time

I don't see that as "showcasing his gayness"
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:08 am to
Actually the more I think about...

This Ardillo fella was a life long Catholic and a pretty devote one too. He was an Alter boy and grew up in a pretty devote home. Said the rosary everyday... etc etc

And he didn't know he was suppose to receive communion because he was married outside the church... well I call bull shite on that.

He knew damn well
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