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re: Gay man denied communion in Amite church

Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:32 am to
I understand and agree that it is their right to deny anyone who is "living in sin" the eucharist. It just seems like it is an inconsistently applied concept. How many divorced but not annulled and remarried catholics are knowingly allowed to accept the eucharist? It seems like a fairly similar situation.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:34 am to
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How many divorced but not annulled and remarried catholics


That's not possible.

Unless they get married outside of the church, which would mean the church doesn't even recognize their marriage.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:34 am to
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If the priest does not know and you are in line then he will provide you communion.

If the priest KNOWS and you are in line then you will be denied communion.


maybe the guy did not know that the priest knew

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Again I never thought about running to the media over the matter.


right

I have no idea why this is a story
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:35 am to
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Oh and by the way is a wet dream a sin since you never actually touch yourself?




Of course not. You had no consent of the will, which is obviously a requirement for sin.

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:36 am to
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I understand and agree that it is their right to deny anyone who is "living in sin" the eucharist. It just seems like it is an inconsistently applied concept. How many divorced but not annulled and remarried catholics are knowingly allowed to accept the eucharist? It seems like a fairly similar situation


I'm not a Catholic so perhaps one of our Catholic firneds can either verify this or correct me where I'm wrong, but from what I understand if you're divorced and Catholic you cannot accept the Eucharist.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:36 am to
A. This is a religion thread


B.

Posted by zelman
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:36 am to
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How many divorced but not annulled and remarried catholics are knowingly allowed to accept the eucharist?


I would think none. I don't think people understand that there's a book called the catechism of the catholic church and all the rules are printed in there. The priests aren't just making this stuff up as they go.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:37 am to
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How many divorced but not annulled and remarried catholics
That's not possible
unless you're a Kennedy
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:38 am to
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eems to me the church missed an opportunity to save a lost soul


The church cannot save a soul that is unrepentant. Even if this was an opportunity, would he have been willing to denounce his "civil" marriage and live a chaste life?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:39 am to
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would he have been willing to denounce his "civil" marriage and live a chaste life?


maybe
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:39 am to
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This is a religion thread
it's been officially entered into consideration for the Christie Awards
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:41 am to
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maybe the guy did not know that the priest knew


He likely didn't know.. But the priest knew likely by reading about who was being buried. So as protector of the Eucharist its his responsibility to not provide it to someone he knows is living in mortal sin. Many people get in line every week and simply go up and are not taking the Eucharist the priest typically gives them a blessing.

The guy in the story probably receives the communion at whatever church he attends because he isn't broadcasting that he is gay and married to the priest. In this specific case it sounds like it was broadcast to the priest.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:42 am to
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In this specific case it sounds like it was broadcast to the priest.


it was in the obituary that he was married
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:43 am to
WWCD

What Would Catman Do?
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:47 am to
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Maybe they're just pro-standing up for beliefs and not buckling to the social issue du jour?


This. The Catholics stand up for their beliefs and refuse to compromise and conform to the modern pressures of the world.

Many protestant churches today should just rename themselves the Church of Theological Compromise.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:49 am to
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I'm not a Catholic so perhaps one of our Catholic firneds can either verify this or correct me where I'm wrong, but from what I understand if you're divorced and Catholic you cannot accept the Eucharist.


You can receive communion if you are divorced but it depends on the circumstances.

If you are not remarried and the reasoning for the divorce does not put you in sin. You are OK.

If you are divorced and go to confession immediately before mass then you are OK
The same for any serious sin.



This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:50 am to
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I still respect the Catholic Church, and because of that respect I decided to not try to get the Church to conform to MY views. Instead, I found a church that more closely reflects them.


the guy wasn't aware of the churches stance on the issue

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Ardillo said he would have stayed out of line if the matter had been broached before his mother’s funeral Mass.




So he was trying to receive the sacrament without knowing the rules of it? That's the church's fault?
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25428 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:50 am to
Fair enough. I'll go along with that. I probably wouldn't really know. It just seems like there a lot of divorced catholics out there nowadays. I know a friend of mine's father bought himself an annulment (kind of fricked up) so that he could get remarried in the church.
Posted by Mung
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:51 am to
meh, I'm not ghey, but am Methodist. I don't expect them to give me the wafer.

Mind you, Catholics are welcome to take communion in my church, no questions asked. We're not stingy with it.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8181 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:53 am to
My dad was married to another woman for 1 year then divorced and had the marriage annulled by the church before I,was born. He still will not go to communion even though he is allowed.

As was said many times. Repenting Frm his sin would mean he would have ended his Sam sex marriage and ceased being gay. Obviously he wasn't going to consider it so he is still in sin
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