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re: Gatlinburg, TN suffers severe wildfire damage; 13 people confirmed dead

Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51711 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:52 pm to
Earlier I heard that tourists/visitors were trying to get back to their cabins they had rented to get their pets but they weren't allowed in.

There are a lot of cabin resorts/neighborhoods that are rented by tourists up there, as most of you probably know.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 10:53 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115431 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:52 pm to
Terrible, but understandable
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21523 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:54 pm to
I haven't seen any reports of injuries yet but did see a report earlier of people trying to evacuate and having to abounded cars because they caught on fire while driving...
Posted by VOLcano
Rocky Top
Member since Feb 2016
943 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:00 pm to
Live Updates
Here is a semi live update page, mostly tweets.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51711 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:02 pm to
Arrowmont School of Arts and Crafts in Gatlinburg. EDIT: Image won't work, building is fully involved.

This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 11:04 pm
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:08 pm to
Hate to see this for that area. Such a beautiful area of the country. The economic impact from this could last decades. Unlike floods or hurricanes, the aftermath from wildfires leaves very long lasting scars.

frick those shitheads that started these fires. Tie them to a tree in front of this thing and be done with them!!!!
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19269 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:09 pm to
No rain just a drizzle,
With the winds at 60 mph it's gonna take a deluge to do any good on putting out the fires the smokies have needed a good fire for a longtime, I hope no one gets killed.
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
9070 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:13 pm to
Really sorry for the folks who have been affected by this
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With the winds at 60 mph it's gonna take a deluge to do any good on putting out the fires the smokies have needed a good fire for a longtime

I'm always curious about how often wildfires need to occur to repopulate the seedlings/trees in forests. If the area hadn't had a large fire on this scale in a long time, it almost seemed inevitable at some point.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:15 pm to
Hopefully it has moved through the area so fast that it is acting as a controlled burn and just getting the underbrush. Vert doubtful though with these high winds!! makes it burn very hot, and vert fast. Praying for them up there.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:16 pm to
Holy hell!!!! I know Kathy!!! Such a freaking small world. I can't believe it!
She is such a great, fair, and honest lady. Love her to death!!!

To Kathy!!!
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:18 pm to
Where is she from? She just stole a pregnant ladies money.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49477 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:19 pm to
Wonderful! I should be expecting her to contact me about rescheduling or refunding anytime now.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21523 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:20 pm to
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She just stole a pregnant ladies money.


Do what?!

ETA: never mind, I totally missed the side bar conversations
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:21 pm to
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I'm always curious about how often wildfires need to occur to repopulate the seedlings/trees in forests.

This was, as usual, started by some idiots. I think.
But, I don't think the Appalachian Mountains need wildfires to help sapplings, such as the west coast, under the sequoias, etc. The east gets enough thunderstorms, tornadoes, etc. to thin out weaker trees.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19269 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:21 pm to
I have a buddy that a forester I'll ask him
Posted by Phideaux
Cades Cove
Member since May 2008
2630 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:30 pm to
They do controlled burns in the GSM every year to restore areas
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
9070 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:30 pm to
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But, I don't think the Appalachian Mountains need wildfires to help sapplings, such as the west coast, under the sequoias, etc. The east gets enough thunderstorms, tornadoes, etc. to thin out weaker trees.

Ah that would make sense for the east coast. I took an australian biology class when I went abroad and remember learning about the bushfires being a necessary part of reproduction for some flowers and plants. Meanwhile some trees like the eucalyptus have an oil on them so it basically adds fuel to the fire. Didn't know if it was a similar case for some natural forests in the US.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:33 pm to
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Wonderful! I should be expecting her to contact me about rescheduling or refunding anytime now.




Refund? Kathy purchased that home in late 2015. She always offers insurance? Did you not get the trip insurance?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:34 pm to
They're interviewing a guy inside the park vista. They said they can't leave. The firefighters said they couldn't leave cause winds are blowing too hard and they can't get them out.

This tweet from an hour ago contradicts this

quote:

@WVLTCasey UPDATE: Crews tell us EVERYONE is out of the Park Vista Hotel. I haven't been able to talk with Logan at the moment, cell service is spotty.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 11:44 pm
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:59 pm to
Controlled burns are done more to prevent things like this from happening. You are basically burning off all of the dead, smaller, more combustible undergrowth in a controlled setting. This allows for the older/larger trees to be healthier, while also reducing the rick of wildfires.

Wind speed, and direction is about the most important factor in all of it. This is what ultimately controls the speed and temp that it moves at. Too much wind is basically like blowing on the coals in your fireplace. Dramatic results with minimal input.
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