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re: Gas price in Mid-City is 99 cents a gallon

Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:37 am to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18407 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:37 am to
Go buy your own barrels
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78434 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:49 am to
Two scenarios where you have a widget that is in high demand:

1) You buy a widget for $100. The widgets on the shelf at the store move to $200. When you resell your widget are you going to sell it for $100?

2) You buy a widget for $100. The widgets on the shelf at the store move to $50. When you resell your widget are you going to sell it for $50?
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32257 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:39 am to
Diesel is the only product moving. Someone has to haul all that toilet paper to the hoarders.

Gasoline and Jet Fuel are overflowing, virtually no demand. And won’t be for awhile. More refinery shutdowns appear likely. I’m sure that breaks Bel’s heart.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:44 am to
There are always those one or two gas stations that has the price 20-30 cents higher than every other station in town.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:57 am to
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I stand corrected! If history is any indicator, the price of oil moving up has an immediate effect at the pump. However, bizarrely, the price of a barrel of oil has dropped over $25 in the past month, yet gas at the pump has moved only 10¢ per gallon. It's a mystery as to why.

Oh, wait a minute, I've solved the mystery. They're fricking us because they can. Now I get it!

Who is “they”?

A few things at play here:

1. Usually when reports come out about oil prices increasing or decreasing, they are talking about futures rather than spot prices.

2. It takes quite some time for those changes to actually hit the refineries. They enter into contracts months in advance in some cases.

3. Most importantly, the price of oil is not the only thing that affects the price of gasoline. You also have to consider:
- The cost of refinery operations
- Transportation and marketing costs
- Taxes
- Ethanol

Here’s a graphic from the EIA:


Do the math.. if crude oil makes up 54% of the price at $2.60/gallon, that means 46% ($1.20/gallon) has nothing to do with crude prices and should be close to the floor if refineries are operating at their normal profit margins. Taxes are fixed. Refining costs are close to fixed for all intents and purposes. Distribution costs go down with the price of diesel. The lower the crude oil price, the less impact it has on the price of gasoline.

It’s likely that gasoline at $0.99/gallon is selling at close to zero profit margin due to low demand.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 8:00 am
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8150 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:02 am to
With current crude price at $21/bbl and the gas crack at $3/bbl, refiners are selling gas to distributors at $0.57/gal today. Throw in $0.05/gal for transporation and you're at $0.62/gal. $0.384/gal state and fed taxes and you are right at $1.00/gal.

Anything higher than that is distributors trying to capture some of their lost inventory value in the sudden price drop. The low prices will start with a station or two that buys directly from a close by refinery...distributors will eventually have to follow but will hang on as long as they can.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 8:04 am
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3332 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:58 am to
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That is not good. At all. And I’m in a job that is oil price proof. Once this virus shite passes we’re still in a world of hurt. Thanks communists and Muslims for making an awful year.


I don’t know why this person is getting downvotes. All he’s doing is calling a spade a spade. Saudi Arabia and Russians are having a dick measuring contest on who can hold out longer selling oil for $20 a barrel. I guess those two dumb arse countries are allergic to making money. Cheap gas is nice when you are a starving college kid. However, this cheap arse gas fricks Louisiana’s economy up on so many levels. You think your job isn’t impacted by the price of oil. Everything in Louisiana is impacted by oil.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32888 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:02 am to
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Meanwhile it’s probably still $2.50 at that Bocage gas station in Baton Rouge. Those frickers


I've lived in this part of town for over a decade, and I still can't figure that shite out. If someone built a gas station with "normal" prices somewhere between there and Essen on the same side of the road, they would print money.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:21 am to
Thank you for the well thought out and articulated response. I know there are variances in local markets. Several posters have mentioned the gas station outside of Bocage, where trophy wives don't care how much gas costs.

My beef is that I can go 20 miles east on I-12 to Slidell or 20 miles west to Hammond and gas is at least 10¢ a gallon cheaper. Why?

I can't believe it costs a tanker that much more to travel from Norco or Baton Rouge to Covington. All other costs are the same. So I come to the conclusion that the local station owners are colluding to fix the price of gas. They're fricking us because they can.
Posted by LC-LSU-FAN
Lake Charles
Member since Jul 2012
954 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:22 am to
I’ve seen it as low as 1.59 in Lake Charles
Posted by GBFINC
Member since Dec 2019
43 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:37 am to
The North Shore Sucks, way to expensive to live over the lake
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:26 am to
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I can't believe it costs a tanker that much more to travel from Norco or Baton Rouge to Covington. All other costs are the same. So I come to the conclusion that the local station owners are colluding to fix the price of gas. They're fricking us because they can.

You’re talking about the higher cost of living in a relatively wealthy area, and it is by no means specific to gas prices.
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