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re: Garland instructs FBI to mobilize against parents who oppose CRT, citing "threats"

Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:49 pm to
What's hilarious are these both sides idiots where you pull a string and get something like "CORPORATE AMERICA FORCED IT ON US TO DIVIDE US"

Yeah, big money is totally rolling in for Lindsay and Rufo and these other dudes leaking out power points from board meetings and the like. The CRT groundswell is the epitome of an organic uprising. There is no corporate support, none. Not even right-leaning companies. There was no establishment GOP support until they got tired of being hounded about it. Media support is obviously non-existent save for a few talking heads (who picked it up after it began).

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78452 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:50 pm to
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What major institutions does the right own?


So you don't shoot down the first 5 things while I try to figure out your definition, what is your definition?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98250 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:50 pm to
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mmmmmbeeer


Why are you always lying

It's being taught to my kid right now
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:50 pm to
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It's a fricking cudgel the rightwing propagandists are using against YOU.



You’ve made at least $5.00 shilling today.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122195 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:50 pm to
First of all, I want to say that what I know about CRT I do not agree with it, but I don't understand how it is taught in school or how it applies. Do they even teach normal shite in school? Math, English, History, etc.

Why not just teach kids those subjects and let the parents worry about the moral bullshite.

With that said, I don't see why this should be taken serious. Any threat should be taken serious. If they would have taken threats on social media on Jan 6 more serious maybe that whole situation wouldn't have happened (I know this will outrage some people, but people were killed that day. It shouldn't have happened.. And before you come with the whole "what about the summer of 2020? I am not making excuses for that either, but they were not trying to break into the Capitol in order to force the vice president to do something he wasn't able to do. It was simply a formality. And if you want to debate whether the election was stolen or not, that's cool as well, but this is someone on twitter who is spinning this the way he sees it. There are people who probably see it different and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. This is a good example of how social media causes outrage).

I just googled "how is CRY taught in school and I got this from the following website.

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Critical Race Theory in Schools
?
CRT has become a trending issue in the news especially in regard to its usage in K-12 school discussions. However, "There is little to no evidence that critical race theory itself is being taught to K-12 public school students, though some ideas central to it, such as lingering consequences of slavery, have been." (The Associated Press).



Regardless, many states have proposed passing legislative bans on CRT teachings. These states include Florida, Texas, Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Utah, Arizona, North Dakota, Iowa, Oklahoma, Ohio, Alabama, and Kentucky.


endasianhate.com

Im not sure why its on a site about Asian hate, but before I form an opinion on this, I would want to first want to look into whether or not this is something that is used to cause outrage from one side and if its parents getting worked up over assumptions.

For those who will be pissed about this post. What would rather me do? Just believe whatever someone who has an agenda says about it?

Also, the title is misleading. It makes it sound as if FBI is in position to go after parents who oppose CRT and then by putting threats in quotes, it also can be perceived that the FBI is overreacting, but is there any information on these threads to determine whether or not they are threads? If not then by quoting threads this person seems like they are assuming that these threats are not really threats and should be taken serious, which no one can say unless that information is made public.

Im not defending one side, I am just saying its okay to question everything and not just believe the first thing you read.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36335 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:51 pm to
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I also think that people in this situation should absolutely find nothing in that memo to be afraid of.


Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:51 pm to
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You can teach someone what critical race theory is (in theory. All of the goons who still don't understand what it is are working overtime to prove otherwise), but it is not a curriculum, and it's certainly not some set of facts or historical anecdotes.
This is dishonest or ridiculously naïve.

Go have a look at schools ending advanced math and science courses. Have a look at schools no longer enforcing tardiness. Have a look at schools no longer giving out Fs for failing grades. And tell me Kendi's systemic dismantling tenets aren't being practiced in schools today.

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Stop listening to idiots on Twitter,
But we should definately listen to some poster on TD, amiright?
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:51 pm to
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If it doesn’t exist in K-12, then these teachers and schools wouldn’t have any issue with the banning of teaching something that doesn’t exist.


In NC this week, one county's commissioners threatened to withhold $7M from a school board if they didn't drop CRT. You know what they defined as "dropping CRT"? The schools in this county are now required to portray any American historical figure as a contributor, innovator, and hero of American history.

Basically, they used the CRT bogeyman to try to eliminate Jim Crow, slaveholders, and some of the uglier things from our past, which we should all be learning from so as to not repeat past mistakes, from history books. That's some scary shite, man.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:52 pm to
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B. CRT is a thing, I don't deny that. But it's quite literally an advanced, high level course that is taught in a handful of universities. Just because an element of CRT, such as holding the slave-driven, antebellum Southern economy accountable for inhumane behaviors, doesn't mean that they're teaching the entire theory. If I told you that that Jerusalem exists, are you going to accuse me of being a bible thumper? Same thing.



Exhibit A of pseudo intellectual babble

- It's taught in every law school in America, likely in 90% of sociology departments as well.

- "holding the slave-driven, antebellum Southern economy accountable for inhumane behaviors" is not an element, theme or topic I've ever seen in CRT text.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68479 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:53 pm to
Well, let's see. There's the presidency. Congress. Academia. Mainstream media. Big tech/social media. Entertainment/athletics. Intel agencies. DOJ. And now military. What does the right have other than some controlled opposition in Fox and message boards?
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:53 pm to
Mmmmmbeer, Spleen, and c on z make up our Ku, Klux, and Klan
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:54 pm to
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Do you even think when you say definitive things like this?
If you go by just college professors, only 9% defined themselves as “conservative” during the last study that was performed around 2007.

That has likely worsened significantly over the previous decade plus.

Now, add in that the entire public teaching apparatus backs the left STRONGLY, it is not far fetched to state that the progressives control every level of education.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73686 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:54 pm to
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So you think threats shouldn't be investigated?


It’s useful idiots like you that will be first to go up against the wall once the progressives realize their dream of setting u a Marxist utopia here in America.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:54 pm to
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if CRT doesn’t exist…why are parents showing up to school board meetings to protest it. it’s all imaginary huh?

Why are school boards working so hard to prevent it being banned if it doesn't exist? Why are posters so busy defending it?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138932 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:55 pm to
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A. I am not hear to bullshite anyone. I tell you what I think, what I know, learn from debate, and occasionally make fun of my boy Roger. I'm not some commie, far left, PC idiot.

You're a pretty far left person who's convinced himself he's a moderate.
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B. CRT is a thing, I don't deny that. But it's quite literally an advanced, high level course that is taught in a handful of universities. Just because an element of CRT, such as holding the slave-driven, antebellum Southern economy accountable for inhumane behaviors, doesn't mean that they're teaching the entire theory. If I told you that that Jerusalem exists, are you going to accuse me of being a bible thumper? Same thing.

Again, the name brand ketchup analogy is apt. You're saying that since it's not the high level class, then it's not CRT and that's 1000% false. Hell, these classes are designed to give it legitimacy by pointing to the fact that it's being taught therefore it's a valid concept. Not to mention it's being taught in order for these radical ideas to be disseminated in places like local middle schools and high schools. Stop being such a naïve child who's primarily concerned with semantics.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130926 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:55 pm to
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CRT does not exist in any K-12 public education system in this entire country. It's a fricking cudgel the rightwing propagandists are using against YOU.

Christopher Rufo has been successful with what he’s doing. A theory that has only existed in law school for decades has made its way into the mainstream and is used to gaslight the Republican base for the upcoming midterms.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28502 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:55 pm to
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So you think threats shouldn't be investigated?



It's the lefts interpretation of a threat. I want the FBI's version of what a threat or intimdation is in this regrad? The answer should NOT be subjective.

To the left - "silence is violence." If this type of BS is what they are referring then I'm a fricking terrorist by their description - which is utter horseshite.


If a threat on someone's life by all means lock them up but if it's going to PTA or school board meetings and shouting down Marxism then that's BS and is 1A in it's purest form.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:56 pm to
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Why not just teach kids those subjects and let the parents worry about the moral bullshite.
Because the politicians you voted for don’t want it that way.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:56 pm to
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Exhibit A of pseudo intellectual babble

- It's taught in every law school in America, likely in 90% of sociology departments as well.

- "holding the slave-driven, antebellum Southern economy accountable for inhumane behaviors" is not an element, theme or topic I've ever seen in CRT text.


I truly do respect you as a poster so I'm not going to get into this with you. We can't have a debate operating under completely different sets of facts. As Chris just showed above, apparently the Associated Press is wrong, in your opinion. If I can't even source the AP in a debate, there's no reasonable debate to be had.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78452 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:57 pm to
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. I want the FBI's version of what a threat or intimdation is in this regrad? The answer should NOT be subjective.


Which is why the memo said that more information is to come on this.
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