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re: Gap Year: Thoughts, Pro, Cons...
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:39 am to No Colors
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:39 am to No Colors
The only way I'd condone it is if his arse had a full time job, and was preparing for college. This way he'd actually understand and appreciate what an education means.
Don't pay for your kid just to dick around for a year.
Don't pay for your kid just to dick around for a year.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:39 am to TheCurmudgeon
I ski bummed for a year after college/then bartended in wrigleyville chicago. Very happy I did it. Look forward to taking my currently non-existent kids skiing/cubs game, showing them where I lived and worked.
I looked forward to college and the experience there. I was not going to miss that.
Although I do think a Gap year could go a long way towards someone's maturity. Some people are not ready for college. I look back at my freshman year as me just going through the motions not taking school seriously, worried about partying and the football depth chart.
I would have loved to go to Colorado / work on a beach/ be a deck hand on a boat.
It all depends on the person. Some people need the structure to grow. Some people need freedoms to grow.
I have learned that it is best to split your life up into 3rds. 1-30 you figure out what you want to do. 30-60 you do it. 60-90 you either keep working or you retire.
Life is a garden, dig it
I looked forward to college and the experience there. I was not going to miss that.
Although I do think a Gap year could go a long way towards someone's maturity. Some people are not ready for college. I look back at my freshman year as me just going through the motions not taking school seriously, worried about partying and the football depth chart.
I would have loved to go to Colorado / work on a beach/ be a deck hand on a boat.
It all depends on the person. Some people need the structure to grow. Some people need freedoms to grow.
I have learned that it is best to split your life up into 3rds. 1-30 you figure out what you want to do. 30-60 you do it. 60-90 you either keep working or you retire.
Life is a garden, dig it
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:43 am to cjared036
And what is funny/messed up is by upping the minimum wage they are making these types of opportunities less inticing and more complacent people in basic labor jobs. Versus going out getting way less than min wage but getting life experience and becoming self sufficient and confident.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:56 am to No Colors
It sounds like something for kids who aren't very bright.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:57 am to No Colors
As a country we've become so focused on getting ahead instead of actually working with students at their level.
Parents are already talking about college prep pre schools and pushing kids to read before kindergarten. Early childhood development research shows that this has very little benefit and more often is harmful to kids as it leads to higher levels of frustration.
Since we're only pushing academics as a nation, we're forgetting so many other skills that make us well rounded. Many kids do succeed, but others are left behind or become burnt out.
Some of my best students as a TA were non traditional students that had worked or been in the military before attending college. I think this allowed them to mature and gain other skills needed to become successful.
Parents are already talking about college prep pre schools and pushing kids to read before kindergarten. Early childhood development research shows that this has very little benefit and more often is harmful to kids as it leads to higher levels of frustration.
Since we're only pushing academics as a nation, we're forgetting so many other skills that make us well rounded. Many kids do succeed, but others are left behind or become burnt out.
Some of my best students as a TA were non traditional students that had worked or been in the military before attending college. I think this allowed them to mature and gain other skills needed to become successful.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 8:02 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:59 am to No Colors
I took my gap between undergrad and grad school and worked.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:00 am to No Colors
I wish I would have had a gap year, but TOPS frowns on that sort of thing (why I'll never understand, worst comes to worst the person doesn't use it).
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:03 am to Jcorye1
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I wish I would have had a gap year, but TOPS frowns on that sort of thing (why I'll never understand, worst comes to worst the person doesn't use it).
Couldn't TOPS also be used for junior college? It seems like that could be a good compromise for some kids.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:04 am to No Colors
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No Colors
I took a gap year. I went to college right out of high school because that's what you're "supposed to do." I had no idea what college was or how hard it would be. I had no idea what major I wanted to declare either. I went there for 2 years then dropped out and moved back home. I took a year off and worked 2 jobs. I then decided I was ready and went to the community college close by and got my associates. Then, I transferred to Arkansas with clear goals of what I wanted. I easily got a part time job with a fortune 500 and industry leader and declared my major. Once I graduated I stayed with that company and moved to Texas making 50K a year. That was 2 years ago. I just accepted a new job offer for 70 a year. I am now making more than my friends who went to school in 4 years and immediately started working.
TL;DR gap year helped me and I don't regret it at all.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:05 am to No Colors
I definitely wouldn't have graduated College if I went straight out of HS.
About a 3 year break for me between HS and starting College. Taught me to appreciate my time there and make the best out of it.
About a 3 year break for me between HS and starting College. Taught me to appreciate my time there and make the best out of it.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:05 am to TheCurmudgeon
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As long as the kid works full time a gap year is great. A year off to dick around and get high on the parents money is asinine.
The kid should use the gap year to actually learn how the world works in order to pick a major/career.
Exactly. I went to college right after high school and flunked out after 1 semester. I got my arse to work for my "gap year" after that awful semester before going back to school and finishing up.
With the exception of the 3 months after graduating college and my first job, I've never had a gap anything. And that was a long, embarrassing 3 months. I'll never understand how someone can not be completely ashamed to purposely be out of work/school for an extended period of time.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:08 am to No Colors
Highly recommend it as long as its meaningful. My niece did this recently. She cleared it with her admissions councilors at her college of choice. She spent 3 months working at an orphanage in Malawi, 3 months volunteering in South Africa, and then three months working in New Zealand. Looks great on a transcript.
Currently looking at a Gap Summer for my youngest. There are several programs where you can graduate high school and go straight to your gap in a foreign country. Planning on sending him to Chile for 3 months. They have options for 3, 6, and 12 I believe. Host family, local language classes, etc, etc.
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Currently looking at a Gap Summer for my youngest. There are several programs where you can graduate high school and go straight to your gap in a foreign country. Planning on sending him to Chile for 3 months. They have options for 3, 6, and 12 I believe. Host family, local language classes, etc, etc.
LINK
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:16 am to Cosmo
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Is he sucking dick for cash?
You should give him some pointers considering your expertise in the matter.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:19 am to Pectus
I would not support a gap year unless my child was doing something productive with his name such as joining the military or making money in some other fashion.
Once you get out of the routine of going to class and studying, it's hard to go back.
Once you get out of the routine of going to class and studying, it's hard to go back.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:20 am to No Colors
I took a year off between college and medical school.
I didn't work. I just hunted, fished, and traveled. It was the best decision ever.
I didn't work. I just hunted, fished, and traveled. It was the best decision ever.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:35 am to No Colors
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Gap Year:
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:06 am to bayourougebengal
quote:I knew that was coming
bayourougebengal
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:07 am to No Colors
I think a gap of one year is good. Any more than that and it's hard as hell to get your head back into school.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:10 am to No Colors
Hell no.
The only gap I approve of involves going to Basic Training.
Our youth are soft and spoiled. The last thing they need is a European backpacking trip to find themselves.
My son starts college this fall. He knows his options are College or military.
The only gap I approve of involves going to Basic Training.
Our youth are soft and spoiled. The last thing they need is a European backpacking trip to find themselves.
My son starts college this fall. He knows his options are College or military.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:50 am to Loungefly85
And your case is exactly on point. My daughters went from HS to college (one started early summer session right after HS), but they were ready for college.
Wife and I went back and forth for months about my son, I felt he needed a year off to work, learn a bit about the world, and mature. I lost the battle and he's been struggling. He even says he should have taken at least a gap semester, if not a gap year.
TOPS will let you take a gap year. My position is work and learn about the world, not get high and sleep in a van for 12 months.
Wife and I went back and forth for months about my son, I felt he needed a year off to work, learn a bit about the world, and mature. I lost the battle and he's been struggling. He even says he should have taken at least a gap semester, if not a gap year.
TOPS will let you take a gap year. My position is work and learn about the world, not get high and sleep in a van for 12 months.
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