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re: Fwiw, killing of unarmed blacks by police has fallen from 40 in 2015 to 9 in 2019
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:03 pm to O
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:03 pm to O
quote:In an ideal world, sure. That said, that's just unrealistic optimism. I imagine that number doesn't exclude freak accidents that no one could possibly predict either. Say something such as returning fire at a gunman, and an unarmed bystander in the background got nicked in a vital spot.
That number should be zero every single year, regardless of race.
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:05 pm to TigersSEC2010
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That is impossible. Humans are imperfect. Anyone who expects zero is illogical.
What people expect are consequences.
If I lose control and kill someone, I'm facing up to 40 years on a manslaughter charge. If a cop loses their cool and kills someone, they generally don't face the same level of consequences, if they face any consequence at all.
When people say "black lives matter", that's what they mean.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:06 pm to O
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That number should be zero every single year, regardless of race.
Drugged up suspects will lead to strokes, heart attacks, etc and people will die.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You will never have perfection
Maybe not but I don’t even think shooting unarmed civilians is part of the Army’s ROE, though I could be wrong. Asking the police to not shoot unarmed people isn’t asking for perfection.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Thanks phone cameras and social media
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:18 pm to O
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That number should be zero every single year, regardless of race.
That number includes those who were thought to be armed, or “reaching” for a weapon that may not exist.
With the millions of interactions, 9 is a miraculous number.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:21 pm to Joshjrn
you can't win with these clowns. all they see is what trump tells them to see.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:22 pm to crazy4lsu
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Asking the police to not shoot unarmed people isn’t asking for perfection.
If that unarmed person attacks the police officer and takes his/her gun they are no longer unarmed. Unarmed doesn't mean you are not dangerous, it simply means you are unarmed.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:26 pm to Aristo
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f that unarmed person attacks the police officer and takes his/her gun they are no longer unarmed. Unarmed doesn't mean you are not dangerous, it simply means you are unarmed.
This is such a rare scenario that it shouldn't be used as a justification. If the person is unarmed to begin with, the likelihood of them getting a weapon from a police officer is extremely small, almost to the point of being non-existant.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:31 pm to crazy4lsu
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This is such a rare scenario that it shouldn't be used as a justification. If the person is unarmed to begin with, the likelihood of them getting a weapon from a police officer is extremely small, almost to the point of being non-existant.
Then why does it happen?
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:35 pm to Harry Morgan
Of the 3000 deaths that have occurred after police interaction since 2013, how many of those deaths resulted from an unarmed person grabbing a gun?
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:35 pm to crazy4lsu
Unarmed people being shot who are complying is quite rare itself.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:38 pm to crazy4lsu
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Of the 3000 deaths that have occurred after police interaction since 2013, how many of those deaths resulted from an unarmed person grabbing a gun?
Do your own research.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:41 pm to armsdealer
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Lots of things are hard to perfect. Not killing people should be a really easy thing to get perfect. Perfection is expected of the public, why not the cops?
Who says some of the unarmed that are killed aren't justified? A 6'4 300 pound man high on drugs can kill a 160 pound man or 130 pound woman pretty easily. The deaths will never be zero.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Now do whites and see a skyrocket
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:42 pm to O
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That number should be zero every single year
Or should the number be higher
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:44 pm to Aristo
I would wager it is more common than a perp stealing a gun from an officer, at which point another officer has to use deadly force. Daniel Shaver is one example. Daniel Tuttle was unarmed. Breanna Taylor was unarmed. There are a whole laundry list of people who were unarmed that were shot.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:45 pm to Harry Morgan
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Do your own research.
I have dipshit. I know the answer.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:46 pm to crazy4lsu
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I would wager it is more common than a perp stealing a gun from an officer
Probably so because if they are fighting the police, being told to stop and they don't, they get shot by the police.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So BLM protests are working.
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