re: Fuel Is Just Fuel; It's All About The Engine. (100% Legit) (Diet) (Nutrition)

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the laws of thermodynamics

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I see you keep mentioning this like you'e stumbled on some holy grail that cannot be undone and proves your point as correct. The sad thing is that your argument only applies to the 1st law of thermal dynamics, and does not take into consideration the 2nd law. Here. Here is how it relates. "Thus, ironically the dictum that a "calorie is a calorie" violates the second law of thermodynamics, as a matter of principle." But don't trust me, start reading...

LINK "Dr. Sims first tried to make university students fat by having them deliberately eat two to three times their normal caloric intakes. Over 3 to 5 months, try as they might, the students were only able to increase their weights by 10-12% and couldn't gain more."

So they switched to prisoners "Groups of "equally dedicated volunteers at the Vermont State Prison" signed up, committed to eating as much as they could for 200 days to try to get fat. Far from being easy, it wasn't. In fact, most of the men found it so extremely difficult that many considered dropping out. Forcing themselves to eat so much became so unpleasant a few even barfed after breakfast. "Most of them developed an aversion to breakfast," wrote Dr. Sims. Virtually all of them at least doubled the amount of food they usually ate and simultaneously reduced their activity, and many were eating as much as 9,000 to 10,000 kcal/day he said. Still, only twenty men managed to gain 20 to 25% of their weight with great difficulty and the others couldn't, even though they were consuming more calories than the others, wrote Dr. Sims."

"After the experiment, the genetically lean men effortlessly lost weight without counting calories, and eventually stabilized at their starting weight, most with no weight increase at all. "Essentially all of the subjects to date have lost weight readily," wrote Dr. Sims, "with the same alacrity, in fact, as that with which most of our obese patients return to their usual and customary weight after weight loss."


My favorite: LINK Calories schmalories, alcohol, and chocolate


So keep yapping away at a calorie is a calorie. That's your choice, but it isn't correct and has been proven already.

Things would probably be much easier for you if you'd just come out of the closet already

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I'm 6' and 196 lbs. I don't have a double chin.

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5'10" 205 and I don't have one, either.

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So I guess every elite bodybuilder has shite genetics?

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This is exactly what I thought.

Phil Heath has an extremely strict diet, and he probably has some of the most ridiculous genetics ever.

Essentially leangains boils down to the following

eat noon until 8(8 hours)
Fast 8 until noon next day

Eat carbs and protein on lift days
Fat and protein on rest days
Lift 3 times a week, walk on rest days

I suggest going over to ifcalc.com and punching in your data and doing -30% on rest days; -10% on lift days(refers to calorie deficit) and doing the 80/20 carb fat split option.

Or go over to the food and drink board and click on the putthaforkdown thread and my google drive link is stickied in the first post. Down load the 31min AMA spread sheet and put your data in, it will tell you exactly what to eat macro and calorie wise and even exercises to do.

After that it's just about cooking your meals, weighing and tracking.

What part? He isn't wrong per se, it's just his advice only applies to the genetic elite. Everyone else can achieve the same results but they can't eat chicken fires all day and expect to get results. Just like it will catch up to him and he could have better results if he ate cleaner.

He is wrong about pro athletes. So wrong. Most have nutritionist and chefs that cook exactly what they need.