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re: Frisco, TX track meet stabbing: 1 student killed, another charged with murder

Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Are you going to post actual statistics or just find a couple of articles here and there or music videos from 24 years ago.


Keep your head buried in the sand if you want to.

Collin County has had issues with depressed teens, suicides, and murder / suicides going back to at least the 80s.

I provided links to two very recent events, and one that is world famous.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5212 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:11 pm to
These ferals are part of our problem in this country. It’s a shame we don’t crack down.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10599 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Yeah, all 10 of them.

Race doesn’t have the same emphasis here. Stop injecting race into this situation. It’s a big enough tragedy for our town without injecting more outrage.

I know you didn’t mean 10 in a literal sense, but I just wanted to add something.

According to wiki The black population in Frisco has gone from 3.65% in 2000 to 8.82% in 2020 with almost 18,000 blacks in 2020 census for Frisco which is missing out on 4 years of woke and Biden politics pushing affordable housing and sect 8 or some other govt program to put more blacks into suburban school districts and neighborhoods funded with taxpayer money. For school populations the 2020 numbers don’t include the sections of FriscoISD covering parts of other cities like Plano and McKinney (or subtract any Frisco residents who live within the boundaries of another ISD).

Though not yet a large problem culture was and seemingly after yesterday still is becoming more of a problem mainly due to those govt programs, too many apartments old & new in Frisco as well as in the Plano & McKinney sections FriscoISD covers, and large out of town & out of state state corporations buying up properties to rent all helping to import more people who didn’t earn their way in and who then often don’t leave their culture or “friends” in the rear view mirror when moving into Frisco.

At the same time property tax increases and insurance premium increases had pushed some existing residents who had earned the purchase of their home into struggling or cutting back a lot to stay while others living next to them or who have kids in same schools as their kids were getting it handed to them. In that sense it’s not truly a race issue but more of a growing entitlement culture issue.


Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130906 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:19 pm to
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Yet another mature well thought response from lunchbox

Everything from him feels like rage.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:21 pm to
I certainly can’t argue about anything you posted but the only apartments I even know of around me start at $2k/month for studios and I thought most of those regulatory gaps were closed during Trump’s 1st term. There’s definitely some rental homes in East Frisco, the “older” part of town but even those homes start at $300k and are hard to find.

All that to say we just don’t seem to feel the impact the way others areas have. And the lack of a sizeable “poor” population eliminates a lot of issues we see in surrounding communities like Little Elm.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:23 pm to
This just doesn’t seem to be the race centric issue many are trying to frame it as. That’s my point.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10599 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:24 pm to
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The residents of Collin County should be way more concerned about this than the Muslim plan to build a family-friendly neighborhood on unincorporated land miles away from everything else.


Are you talking about the one that wants to implement Shira law, discriminate on who can live there, and has 2 separate ranches with with one building some multiplex housing and the other didn’t have plans spelled out that I saw in articles I read. I waiting to read a description that fits something that could be easily used for training.

Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6810 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:45 pm to
I don't think EPIC will see the light of day...Ken Paxton lives in McKinney.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35021 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:47 pm to
Too many know me lol
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Are you talking about the one that wants to implement Shira law, discriminate on who can live there, and has 2 separate ranches with with one building some multiplex housing and the other didn’t have plans spelled out that I saw in articles I read. I waiting to read a description that fits something that could be easily used for training.



Yeah, this has the potential of a powder keg on 4th of July. It can get crazy fast.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25817 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:49 pm to
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Keep your head buried in the sand if you want to.

Collin County has had issues with depressed teens, suicides, and murder / suicides going back to at least the 80s.

I provided links to two very recent events, and one that is world famous.


You provided two, there should be hundreds of examples if it is as bad as you say
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:50 pm to
Frisco has a larger population than Baton Rouge with under 5 murders a year and he wants to talk shite about all our crime
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150321 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:56 pm to
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homes start at $300k
gross
Posted by TTU97NI
Celina, TX
Member since Mar 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:08 pm to
My son played 5v5 with Austin a few years back. At his (son) track meet in Aubrey, tx same day a kid was found with a gun. Don't think that made the news. really bad situation.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:18 pm to
I’m just going to paste this over here to save time.


Ok. Here’s the context if prevailing, consistent stories are true. I’m not including things that are still questionable like the social media post, only things that have been said by all studenst and parents I’ve spoken to. I should add that my son knew Austin and his friends.

Austin broke Karmelo‘s phone a couple days ago. I don’t know much about the events surrounding this so we don’t know how it happened.

Karmelo and Austin were both competing in the track meet for different schools. Austin was sitting in a tent put up for his HS’s track members while Karmelo’s school had a tent set up for their athletes nearby.

Karmelo came to sit under Austin’s school tent and there was a few minutes of rising tension. Austin grabbed Karmelo’s bag and threw it out of their tent towards Karmelo’s school tent.

This led to a fight where Austin threw the first punch. They were surrounded by coaches, athletes and school officials and the fight would have been broken up almost immediately. However, Karmelo pulled out a knife and stabbed Austin. He brought a knife onto school property during a sanctioned school event.

When I say that race didn’t contribute to this crime, I mean that Karmelo likely would have stabbed Austin under these exact same circumstances no matter what his race was. This was a situation that was brewing over a couple days.

Everything I’ve posted is alleged and comes from the perspective of 16-18 year olds. My heart breaks for two families in my community today.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 3:19 pm
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3673 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:23 pm to
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Austin broke Karmelo‘s phone a couple days ago. I don’t know much about the events surrounding this so we don’t know how it happened.



Seems odd for two students from different high schools.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:27 pm to
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Seems odd for two students from different high schools.


Not really. There are 12 high schools across the city. One street over from me is a different neighborhood that attends a different high school due to zoning that changes based on enrollment numbers. Frisco is very strict about keeping individual school populations under a certain number so zones have shifted back and forth a little over the last 8 years.

So kids who live a couple streets away from each other attend different high schools but likely went to the same middle school as those are much more neighborhood centric.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66973 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Seems odd for two students from different high schools.



I mean depending on how close the schools are to one another....

My kid has friends at tons of different high schools. There are like 5 high schools within 5 miles of my house. That is just how it is in the Texas suburbs.

It also could have happened at another track meet. I assume the schools are in the same district for competition.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:35 pm to
Yes, the schools are in the same district and not even that far apart. These kids have likely interacted many times just through school events and may have even attended the same middle or elementary schools. My son knew Austin and his friends but didn’t know Karmelo. But no one really questions how the kids knew each other bc most of the kids in high school who play sports know each other or at least know of each other and have competed together or against most of their lives.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29579 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:47 pm to
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Seems odd for two students from different high schools.


For the people that don’t know, Frisco has 12 different high schools. It’s nuts, but I’m sure all the kids know each other and grew up playing sports with and against each other.

200,000 residents and 12 high schools, we have 65,000 in our community with 2 high schools.
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