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re: Fresh out of college, no real-world experience, no specialized degree. Salary expectation?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 6:52 am to Will Cover
Posted on 6/20/18 at 6:52 am to Will Cover
You are all looking at this wrong, don’t worry about pay in the beginning worry about getting experince and getting contacts. If you believe in yourself it is the path to make the most money. Otherwise you have the chance of getting stagnant.
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 6:58 am to Will Cover
Grocery store or restaurant.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:02 am to iglass
Good post.
Context for 150+ candidates...
We are talking about interviews done over the past 30 months with a net of 2 hires during that span.
Sales managers are always looking for great hires year round. F2F with 10 candidates a month is not unreasonable. But when the company invests 100k in the first year... and when an employee starts out a commission job with no pipeline... it takes a while to find mutually beneficial matches.
Context for 150+ candidates...
We are talking about interviews done over the past 30 months with a net of 2 hires during that span.
Sales managers are always looking for great hires year round. F2F with 10 candidates a month is not unreasonable. But when the company invests 100k in the first year... and when an employee starts out a commission job with no pipeline... it takes a while to find mutually beneficial matches.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:14 am to Lsuhack1
quote:I mean, you have to be able to pay the bills and that's not cheap in bigger cities
You are all looking at this wrong, don’t worry about pay in the beginning
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:15 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:24 am to Will Cover
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I should not have been surprised at the response I received earlier this week, based upon what I have read on here - but I was --- I actually thought many were "joking" about the millennial and their requirements.
They should expect 32-36k salary before commission, Which is on par with admin assistant(secretary) pay with basic skills and a general studies degree from 4 yr college.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:28 am to Will Cover
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I was floored when I asked about their salary expectations. The response I received is that I would not settle for less than $70K base salary.
In Baton Rouge.
So he/she wanted a really good entry-level Computer Programmer(NOT AN "IT" GUY) or Engineer salary in BR area without putting in the work to get that degree?
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:30 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:30 am to Will Cover
$35- $40k
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:31 am to mikelbr
Maybe he wasn't really interested in the job. It wasn't the pay that he required for a job. It's just the pay that he requires for THAT job. Either he doesn't get the job which is what he really wanted, or he gets an absurd salary that makes the job actually worth taking.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:36 am to Peazey
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Maybe he wasn't really interested in the job.
Maybe you're right now that I think about it. As a younger guy but with 5 yrs experience in BR, I recall declining a position using that very method at local credit union in 2006.
I had a decent analyst job at an insurance company making $57k.
This Credit Union was offering 42-46k for a Visual Studio programmer for some in-house apps they wanted to build(I immediately thought EFF that shite. Too much work and deadlines).
Knowing their range, I automatically asked for 72k to leave my current cushy job. Very short interview and I went Ivars to beat the happy hour crowd.
It's you, Willcover. Not the candidate.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:38 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:47 am to More beer please
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Yeah in the 80s you also didn’t have
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Cable bill
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Insane day care costs
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Cell phone bill
You just crawl out from under a rock? We had all of those and cell phone bills were outrageous compared to today.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:51 am to Will Cover
Reading this thread makes me happy I went to school for Electrical Engineering and not basket weaving. Otherwise, I might be only to afford Fair Park/Oak Cliff rentals
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:13 am to VABuckeye
Having a cell phone and internet connection were not necessities like they are today. Cell phones were a luxury for the rich. Nowadays if you don't have a cell phone then it would be difficult or impossible to maintain a lot of jobs.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:14 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:20 am to tgrbaitn08
I was talking about total compensation ya dingle berry.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:29 am to Peazey
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Having a cell phone and internet connection were not necessities like they are today. Cell phones were a luxury for the rich. Nowadays if you don't have a cell phone then it would be difficult or impossible to maintain a lot of jobs.
Most businesses either pay for service or outright give you a phone.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:30 am to Peazey
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Having a cell phone and internet connection were not necessities like they are today. Cell phones were a luxury for the rich. Nowadays if you don't have a cell phone then it would be difficult or impossible to maintain a lot of jobs.
bullshite. If you were an outside salesperson in the 80's a cell phone was damned near a necessity.
Did you live or work in the 80's? If you did, you'd know.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:09 am to 50_Tiger
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Most businesses either pay for service or outright give you a phone.
no.Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:15 am to Peazey
You must work for a shitty company then. Mine pays me $50 a month for cell phone.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:08 am to Sao
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Leads provided and spoon fed or would a fresh out of college kid have to cultivate and prospect? Who is teaching them? How much rope until they are on their own? How are they measured?
For a fresh out of college kid we pay a slightly higher salary the first 3 months during training where they are able to work existing leads and if they are worth a shot, cultivate their own.
They're trained by a sales lead, sales manager and on occasion the VP of the region (though rarely).
Usually they're out on their own by the time the three months are up, some sooner. We use a marketing and sales tool to track the deals they are working. Sales rep is responsible for turning in the report to their supervisor who then makes sure the deals are closed before passing to the manager for final approval (for pay out)
Daily sales meetings (10-15 minutes in the morning) to track progress and answer questions and then they are turned loose to either work from office or meet with clients or pound the pavement if they choose to
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 12:03 pm to TH03
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You must work for a shitty company then. Mine pays me $50 a month for cell phone.
Clearly.
The first day of onboarding here I was given a company phone and laptop.
I can upgrade my phone every two years and just upgraded my laptop. Can get essentially a gaming laptop every 4 years.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 12:12 pm to Will Cover
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The response I received is that I would not settle for less than $70K base salary.
Wow! I have a mechanical engineering degree and didn't have close to those expectations. Most I know of with "business" or other random degrees with no real direction out of school end up in the low 30's. At least friends and family I knew. My wife had an MBA and started there. Quickly move up once you determine a career path and get a little experience.
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