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re: Fred's Bar lawsuit over patron fight death moves forward...

Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:45 pm to
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que?


Wait I thought you were a lawyer?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:47 pm to
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State court equivalent of a 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim for which relief can be granted.


Yeah I got it just curious.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:47 pm to
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Fred's absolutely should seek supervisory review of this ruling.

Often it's better to wait on the MSJ


The judge isn't going to change his mind about the existence of a cause of action and only a retard could not come up with an issue of fact under these circumstances.

Better to try to kill this in its crib.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122859 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:55 pm to
Premises can be tough here because of the open and obvious defense. It at least allows you to file an MSJ on most grocery store/hotel/restaurant cases.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:16 pm to
No. Not me I hate lawyers.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:46 pm to
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when I was a Fred's/Murphy's doorman


Did you ever get tired of the Murphy's bartenders throwing ice at you to alert you about a fight when you were trying to score some trim?
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
868 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:56 pm to
Bad ruling “Chip”.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:59 pm to
this is someone who knows

I was the low man on the totem pole so I was either unclogging the women’s toilets, on the door checking IDs or standing on a stool on the floor

So no OTJ trim pursuit for me

The Murphy’s doormen who picked up were the senior guys chilling on the patio
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15065 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:02 pm to
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Yea, 26 y/o father doesn't need to be fighting college kids at a college bar. The poor baby momma is likely desperate for cash.



She got a few duckies already.
And would.
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This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 5:02 pm
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
7223 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:32 pm to
My gosh what happened to personal responsibility? And Repath was the aggressor, and a father, and older. This is laughable. I know legally that doesn’t matter, but still.

Also, it is my understanding the 21 year old who pushed him in self defense was not physical that night until then. So Repath threw a punch at a guy who wasn’t even involved in the physical fighting earlier.

To me, their “argument” of Fred’s (at the same time in the same exit) throwing out 2 guys previously fighting is not a real argument at all. It holds no truth. The 21 year old wasn’t throwing punches earlier that night. He wasn’t physically involved.

This is obviously about money. It’s a disgrace. This woman needs to let her man die a man for the sake of his sons. The situation is bad enough already without her lawsuit.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4724 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:40 pm to
Probably more important is the question of who own the parking lot? Does Fred's own or lease the parking lot or is it an extension of their business?
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2526 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:46 pm to
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The judge isn't going to change his mind about the existence of a cause of action and only a retard could not come up with an issue of fact under these circumstances.

Better to try to kill this in its crib.


Oh, I disagree. Let's put this up for all to see how stupid it is. I have faith (why? I have no idea) that somewhere along the line a judge or jury or both would lean over the railing and ask "Have you lost your ever-loving mind?". Let's just make it a Hollywood documentary-style movie, i.e. Natural Born Killers/Truman Show/etc. Let's just go all in.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:47 pm to
Judges have become the biggest obstacle to civilized society
Posted by chilge2
Member since Nov 2019
232 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:08 pm to
It was an exception of no cause of action. And while ridiculous, I think Judge Moore made the right decision here. The plaintiffs alleged that Fred's was liable for overserving alcohol and for expelling the inebriated patrons "through the same exit and the same time" after it knew or should have known of their propensity of violence towards one another. Fred's filed the exception alleging the protections of the anti-dram shop legislation without giving any consideration to the other theory of recovery and failed to file a reply memorandum to rehabilitate their argument in advance of the hearing.

There's a post-hearing memo that was filed today that isn't available to the public yet. Time will tell what that's all about
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:51 pm to
We couldn’t sniff liability insurance when I was in LSU bar business and I tried. Still go sued when little bitty frat boy took a swing at my 250 pound bouncer and hit his girlfriend bu mistake she tried to stop his foolishness
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:03 pm to
This entire scenario is crazy. Who is supposed to be watching the inside of the bar (where students are packed in like sardines) if the bouncers are babysitting these guys in the parking lot? The entire point of bouncers is to protect patrons inside of the "official" area, to include throwing out unruly people. I can't think of one bar that hires bouncers for the parking lot.

When I was in college, bar parking lot fights were pretty much a nightly occurrence. There was certainly no expectation that bouncers were supposed to leave their post inside the bar to counsel the aggressors until they calmed down. What happens if another fight breaks out in the bar and the bouncers for that section are outside? A lot of people would get hurt, and mostly girls.
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