re: Four-month old dies from Meningitis, probably gotten from unvaccinated child.

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So, one would ask if their kid was vaccinated against this.

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If he received his 2 and 4 mo vaccines, he would be partially immunized.

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The response is, the 4 month old's immune system isn't developed enough for the vaccine to be effective.

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That is an interesting way to put it.

They aren’t fully immunized until after the 3rd vaccine, but that doesn’t mean that the child has no immune response.

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could another immunized child have been an asymptomatic carrier?

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Scruffy can’t say absolutely not, nothing in medicine is absolute, but that is highly unlikely.

Asymptomatic carriers exist, but it is in the older populations normally.

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If the immunization isn't effective on this 4 month old, could it have been another sub-2 year old that had been immunized but was still carrying the virus?

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It is a bacteria, not a virus.

Is that scenario possible? Sure.

Is it likely? No.

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people survive meningitis. it's not quite on the level of polio/mumps/measles.

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Meningitis has a higher mortality rate if untreated, according to the CDC.

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Meningitis has a higher mortality rate if untreated, according to the CDC.

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The neurological effects can be absolutely devastating as well.

Loss of motor function
Significant mental retardation
Seizures
Loss of respiratory function
Etc

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So.. if you are an idiot and don't get your kid vaccinated, and your kid give meningitis to an infant who dies from it, can you be charged with negligent homicide? I would hope so.

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Nope.

I was really good friends with a (now) couple growing up, like from 3rd grade through high school. Sometime during college they got infected with nutjobitis and became obnoxiously huge anti-vaxxers. Linking every article they found on facebook and telling people to stay woke and such (or whatever the equivalent slang was before 2010). Haven't spoken to them since.

Think they're off growing all of their own food now, and unfortunately multiplying. Poor kids.

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correct, but the first epidemic in Europe and USA was early 1900’s, no mass vaccination

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And the vaccine wasn't invented until the mid 50's/early 60's. What does an outbreak at the turn of the last century have to do with eradicating polio today?

EDIT: To clarify, I meant the easily administered oral vaccine that really made the push for eradication feasible. I think the first vaccines might have been in the 30s.

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correct, but the first epidemic in Europe and USA was early 1900’s, no mass vaccination

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The vaccine didn’t exist then.

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The vaccine didn’t exist then.

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I realized this, my point is that this type of outbreaks have come and gone away through history with no vaccine. I’m not saying a vaccine doesn’t help.

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I have a friend with 5 kids. Not a single one vaccinated. My SO thinks I’m joking, but their kids will not be allowed around our’s. If they get something like measles or some shite, I’m gonna flip shite.

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I wouldnt refer to them as a friend any longer.