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re: Ford will suspend F-series production due to microchip shortage

Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:31 am to
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We have outsourced everything in our lives.

Medicine, semiconductors, customer service


We definitely need to bring back semiconductor production in this country in a big way
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:31 am to
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Are they also working on the rust issues?



I read about that on Tigerdroppings. My Toyota was made in Japan and shipped across the Pacific ocean, and driven through at least one snow storm in Chicago. There's not a spec of rust underneath it.

Those pictures of the brand new Ford pickups seriously bad considering they haven't been exposed yet.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:31 am to
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We definitely need to bring back semiconductor production in this country in a big way



Among other things....
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:32 am to
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Henry Ford was a true great American and definitely would've been a Trump supporter. He's also a great great uncle of mine



Henry Ford was a hard line Nazi. He'd have definitely been a Democrat.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19215 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:33 am to
Outsourcing was a catastrophic mistake. Washington got rich, and ordinary Americans got poorer.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 8:34 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27092 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:34 am to
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Seems like an investor would look at this as an opportunity to start a microchip factory in the US?


Time and money make this a bad play from a private perspective. By the time the facility got up and running, the shortage will be over. Honestly, you need some sort of government incentive to invest in the long-term so that we can have a reliable domestic semiconductor manufacturer or two and not have to rely on China.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32711 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:37 am to
That new Bronco is never coming out lmao
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:38 am to
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Honestly, you need some sort of government incentive to invest in the long-term so that we can have a reliable domestic semiconductor manufacturer or two and not have to rely on China.



I'm sure the military would buy a shite load of them.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:41 am to
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Henry Ford would have built his OWN microchip plant here in the USA.


Semi-conductor business is about to explode in the US. All these companies now realize the danger of having all of their suppliers in one area of the globe.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:49 am to
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Semi-conductor business is about to explode in the US. All these companies now realize the danger of having all of their suppliers in one area of the globe.



Can Louisiana get any of this?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62764 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:52 am to
Where in the article does it says production has been suspended?
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7530 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:53 am to
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General Motors has also had issues with supply. Their new Silverado and Sierra pickups in production now lack the cylinder shutoff system because of the microchip shortage. Meaning their trucks likely get slightly worse gas mileage than what the EPA sticker says because they run on all 8 cylinders all the time.


So just sell me that one, because I'll likely disable the eco mode shite anyway. I can't stand when those new cars shut off at the red light.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:53 am to
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Where in the article does it says production has been suspended?





Ford suspends more F-150 pickup, Explorer production
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2063 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:55 am to
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Seems like an investor would look at this as an opportunity to start a microchip factory in the US?



They exist baw.

It's a raw materials issue.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27065 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:56 am to
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Seems like an investor would look at this as an opportunity to start a microchip factory in the US?


PC enthusiasts have been dealing with this for a year now, so I can tell you the answer:

These facilities are staggeringly sophisticated. Not only are they tremendously expensive (generally to the tune of billions of dollars), but they take 2-3 years to build, and that's once the trigger to build has actually been pulled. For someone to decide now to start up domestic silicon fabrication, we're looking at a 3-4 year gap before they come online.

Now, that's nothing to say regarding whether that's a good idea long term from a national strategic perspective, but from a private investor's perspective, it's not a great prospect.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:09 am to
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Can Louisiana get any of this?


If shops haven’t already been gearing up for this type of work (high tech, advanced, aerospace manufacturing) it is most likely too late. But there are Louisiana companies that will benefit. It’s a bit more intense than the O&G manufacturing.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:13 am to
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their trucks likely get slightly worse gas mileage than what the EPA sticker says because they run on all 8 cylinders all the time.

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24718 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:14 am to
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Did Pfizer and Moderna buy up all the microchips?


Supply chain shortages. It's affecting about every industry.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36704 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:16 am to
My son is buying his first truck and is having a hard time finding the specific truck he wants .. there aren't any to be had currently BUT there is a shite ton he's told waiting "somewhere" for these chips.

I mean what the hell else is covid going to mess with?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167230 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 9:19 am to
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Seems like an investor would look at this as an opportunity to start a microchip factory in the US?



The raw materials are the biggest issue. Not so much the manufactoring
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