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re: Ford CEO laments he can’t fill 5,000 mechanic jobs paying $120K per year
Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:30 am to Powerman
Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:30 am to Powerman
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This is a failure by Ford and no one else
I disagree. Ford can do a lot to help fix this, but our culture has made kids think that a trade is beneath them. Our culture has made kids think that being a TikTok influencer, athlete, or rap artist is where the glory really is…and it’s a parenting issue as well. Broken homes, kids raised on social media.
Our culture is broken, and this is just another example.
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:30 am to Jack Daniel
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Is ford investing money into vocational technical programs in high school or are they investing in EV’s that no one wants?
The Fed gov retooled their factories for them.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:32 am to ChatGPT of LA
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frick Detroit, if thats it
-Pete, 43, Lake Charles
Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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Point to this anytime someone says we need to pay more for goods to bring manufacturing back to give jobs to the people who are refusing to take these jobs.
Maybe more people would work with less government aid
Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Point to this anytime someone says we need to pay more for goods to bring manufacturing back to give jobs to the people who are refusing to take these jobs.
Abolish welfare and there will be plenty of people who will do those jobs.
Hunger is a great motivator.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:00 am to Bison
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Maybe Ford can start a trade school and get certified by the US dept of education. Start a program where you train high schoolers/ recent grads to be mechanics/ other trades and retain them as mechanics when they graduate. “Ford School of Mechanics” .
The have a partnership with the Academies of Louisville (magnet program in Jefferson County Public Schools) where they do some of this on the high school level. A couple of their local dealerships also partner with Southern High School who has a certified Automotive Tech program.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
There is more to it than just what’s on face value. But, SFP is running. With it without doing any actual investigation into the claim and understand the nuances because confirmation bias. Not surprising.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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Point to this anytime someone says we need to pay more for goods to bring manufacturing back to give jobs to the people who are refusing to take these jobs.
Entire generations have been brainwashed into believing these jobs are below them & they have to go to college & work in an office to be successful. This is the education systems fault for not letting kids know that they have plenty of options to make good money & be successful outside of going into massive amounts of debt before their life even truly starts just to get a piece of paper. They tell every swinging dick they have to go to college, even if it’s obvious they don’t belong within a mile of a college campus. To make it even worse, the government gives guaranteed loans out to everyone that gets a HS diploma which means absolutely nothing now due to asinine policies such as the No Child Left Behind Act.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:03 am to TexasTiger08
I'll start tomorrow for 120k and benefits
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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Point to this anytime someone says we need to pay more for goods to bring manufacturing back to give jobs to the people who are refusing to take these jobs.
The problems in this country are widespread and there’s no easy solutions. Outsourcing production to get cheap goods isn’t the answer when you’re paying SNAP and other welfare to 10s of millions of potential workers and govt is running trillion dollar deficits and the trade deficit is exporting wealth overseas.
You can bring manufacturing back but right now you’d need more immigrants to operate the factories and multiculturalism brings its own problems.
The solution is somehow to increase birth rates and cut welfare so people go get jobs while bringing back manufacturing here. But there’s no quick fix. It took decades to get to this bad of shape and will take decades to fix it, if it ever gets fixed. Sadly, the only quicker fix will probably be economic collapse forcing a complete reset.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
Sure, sure. Everyone’s kids are a problem but my own. An OT classic.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:16 am to CSinLC
There are two sides to this.
Yes, the college degree push with worthless degree programs is a major problem.
Also, i would look at what is the working environment like. At some point, money isn’t everything. I’m not gonna sit there and put up with a POS boss
Yes, the college degree push with worthless degree programs is a major problem.
Also, i would look at what is the working environment like. At some point, money isn’t everything. I’m not gonna sit there and put up with a POS boss
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:16 am to CSinLC
The machine shop instructor at the local community college is a friend of mine. His shop classroom is better equipped than most industrial shops I've seen. Brand-new top-quality CNC and manual everything.
His class probably has a capacity for 20 students.
When I stopped by there the other day, he had 2 students.
His class probably has a capacity for 20 students.
When I stopped by there the other day, he had 2 students.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:16 am to NIH
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Everyone’s kids are a problem but my own. An OT classic.
How many kids you have, Chief?
this is a granddaughter and another child, who I took in because both parents and all grandparents are dead.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:23 am to CSinLC
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A CEO has acknowledged it. If some of these young kids want a job they have to stop wasting time on useless college degrees. Learn a trade and get your hands a little dirty.
This is gonna be a longer post, so spare me. But he's full of shite.
I have a family member retiring from Ford after working with them for 30+ years (he's a machinist, started as a welder).
One of the common complaints is that they're struggling to find skilled trades people but at the same time they're refusing to adequately train those folks in those trades. When my Uncle came in, they provided a lot of that skill training on their dime within the company. Now they want to outsource a lot of it (through the Union a lot of the time) or expect people coming in to have been trained on their dime.
10-20 years ago in this area working at Ford was a pretty coveted position. It had good benefits, a pension, and damn good pay. Most of that has been scraped for younger workers coming in. What's the point in physically investing in that kind of job when they've pulled the benefits of making that physical sacrifice at the end of the day?
Also, the only person I know that's an automotive technician that makes $120k is ALSO getting ready to retire. They're absolutely full of shite.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Point to this anytime someone says we need to pay more for goods to bring manufacturing back to give jobs to the people who are refusing to take these jobs.
Go frick yourself SFP. Figures you would try to make this some bullshite gotcha.
Let me explain it to you. This problem didn’t start and isn’t being caused by Trump closing the borders. This started 30 years ago when we started convincing every high school in the country that every kid needs to go to college. And it’s been exacerbated by boomers refusing to get out of the workforce. Now those folks are at the absolute end of their careers and can no longer fill the labor gap.
I graduated in 07 in construction management and have been working with tradesmen (both union and non-union) for almost 20 years. It was a problem then. Kids don’t want to go into the trades anymore because we aren’t educating them about the importance of it and valuing the labor they provide. I still deal with it every damn day at work when “educated” people minimize the work skilled labor does.
The solution is not let illegals fill these jobs. That’s fricking absurd. I know trade unions are going hard after inner city youths, and I personally know people that have escaped that life by learning a trade and making excellent money. Look up the efforts Mike Rowe is doing towards advocating for trades.
If the government can do something, they’ve got to address college costs and the student loan crisis. And it is a crisis. College cost increases mirror the efforts in the 90s to push kids towards school. And they’ve almost got a built in customer base with zero need to be cost effective.
Promoting trades does two big things:
- fills a major labor gap
- forces a gut check for higher education.
So get out of here with that bullshite.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:41 am to BluegrassBelle
Construction trades have been begging for workers. Needed an additonal 500k this year, will need 500k more next.
And they can't fill them. People are generally too lazy to work if its manual labor today.
And they can't fill them. People are generally too lazy to work if its manual labor today.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:44 am to elprez00
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If the government can do something, they’ve got to address college costs and the student loan crisis. And it is a crisis. College cost increases mirror the efforts in the 90s to push kids towards school. And they’ve almost got a built in customer base with zero need to be cost effective.
Many worthless degrees and all the costs that go with them need to go away.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:55 am to ChatGPT of LA
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I'll start tomorrow for 120k and benefits
I would too. That would go a long way in Detroit. Just keep me out of Dearborn.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
That's not even close to why dealerships can't find techs. If they'd stop screwing them over on their hours they'd have no problem getting people.
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