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Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:21 am to Donkus
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and there are now hiring ads and posters everywhere for skilled trade.
Private equity that has bought up many mom and pop outfits are always looking to hire some young guys for starting pay so they can oust the senior tradesmen and their higher salaries
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:27 am to CSinLC
Ford sent all those jobs overseas, drove labor demand through the floor, now laments the lack of skilled blue collar labor.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:27 am to Powerman
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This is a failure by Ford and no one else
It is not just a Ford problem but more of an all dealer problem. Not to get into the weeds but they don't pay shite. All car manufacturers pay less for warranty work than dealers get for non-warranty work, often half the book hours. They follow the hours actually expended and if techs get creative and good and reduce the average hours they cut the hours for a job even more. Plus $120K sounds like a lot less when you factor in their debt to the tool trucks.
The numbers have changed but the sentiment is the same. There used to be the three 40s rule. You spend $40k on education and $40k on tools to get started and make $40k a year.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:28 am to Joshjrn
quote:school to be a mechanic is not cheap at all.
Stop expecting them to pay money upfront to “learn a trade”
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:30 am to CSinLC
I get that many younger people who would have the ability to excel at the evolving "digital" aspect he mentions haven't pursued becoming a mechanic.
However, did industry ever just hire these people already trained?
My dad was boiler operator in a paper mill and started not knowing much other than how to play football. He often complained when I was a kid about the "computer schoolin" he constantly had to do on company time to learn the new systems.
Perhaps, the companies themselves have streamlined to give larger payouts to stockholders and are no longer training the young people already working for them to step into these jobs?
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:31 am to CSinLC
These companies do a terrible job recruiting young people. They could easily help fund "shop" classes for teen-agers in various markets. Would have a small army of mechanics within a few years.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:32 am to Turnblad85
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I guess you're the national arbitrator of what a mechanic is worth.
You didn't read my post. I'll copy/paste
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That job at $60k is better than being on welfare.
I even added emphasis for you
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:34 am to wm72
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I get that many younger people who would have the ability to excel at the evolving "digital" aspect he mentions haven't pursued becoming a mechanic. However, did industry ever just hire these people already trained? My dad was boiler operator in a paper mill and started not knowing much other than how to play football. He often complained when I was a kid about the "computer schoolin" he constantly had to do on company time to learn the new systems. Perhaps, the companies themselves have streamlined to give larger payouts to stockholders and are no longer training the young people already working for them to step into these jobs?
Most jobs would do better with a mentorship/apprenticeship type model but it’s dead for the most part.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:35 am to CSinLC
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I know people on this board have talked about this a lot.
A CEO has acknowledged it. If some of these young kids want a job they have to stop wasting time on useless college degrees. Learn a trade and get your hands a little dirty.
This indoctrination runs deep. Decades of treating blue collar work as "less than" and morons pumping up the idea that people in this country won't do this work.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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That job at $60k is better than being on welfare.
Marginally, at best.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:37 am to CSinLC
Just political posturing to get some jeets from Trump.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:38 am to Powerman
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But a 120K salary doesn't support buying a new full size Ford pickup
What....?
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:39 am to jcaz
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Feels like a lie. My BIL is a Ford mechanic at a dealer and doesn’t touch that
It is a lie. There has been a lot of lying by CEOs about the pay of blue collar work and demand over the last few years.
A few months ago there was post here about a Pennsylvania company paying welders fresh out of school like 75k plus benefits. Within a few posts Augustdog or whatever did the legwork and showed that no one in that area are starting out new welders anywhere near that amount. Complete bullshite
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:40 am to imjustafatkid
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This indoctrination runs deep. Decades of treating blue collar work as "less than" and morons pumping up the idea that people in this country won't do this work.
Mike Rowe is trying to put an end to this... We as society are to blame for this, especially the media..
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:40 am to Hangover Haven
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What....?
I mean he's not wrong. Nearly everyone does it, but buying a 60k+ truck on a 120k salary is financially stupid.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:42 am to thegreatboudini
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but buying a 60k+
Not every full size truck is 60K... I mean he might have to settle for a regular F150, and not a King Ranch..
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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better than being on welfare.
Yeah, are you under the impression that people who live on welfare are similarly skilled as a mechanic?
The CEO is saying he can't find workers. You are saying the reason these jobs are going unfilled is because we don't have the workers available.
The reality is that these jobs aren't compensating a skilled worker enough for them to be willing to trade their time for the given compensation.
This isn't difficult. Maybe go take a nap.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:45 am to Hangover Haven
A king ranch would be close to 80k OTD.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:46 am to Hangover Haven
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Mike Rowe
ah, yes, the opera singer cosplaying as bluecollar while getting paid 200k by Blackrock et al per speaking event.
Only thing worse than a wolf is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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