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re: For those of you who work for a company that mandated the vaccine. What did you do?
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:46 am to eitek1
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:46 am to eitek1
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And your anecdotal evidence falls flat in the face of studies that show side effects do exist.
Myocarditis
This site you linked says that in 2.8 million doses studied, 23 people had myocarditis.
That's 0.000821%
A little different from your percentages in your odd russian roulette analogy.
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:50 am to SocialDelinquent
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SocialDelinquent
How can 4 people downvote the truth. They are truly some lying pieces of shite, and OweO is their leader.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:51 am to DrEdgeLSU
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And your anecdotal evidence falls flat in the face of studies that show side effects do exist.
Myocarditis
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This site you linked says that in 2.8 million doses studied, 23 people had myocarditis.
That's 0.000821%
A little different from your percentages in your odd russian roulette analogy.
Much like Trump saying that we were seeing asymptomatic COVID numbers because we were testing for it...the same is true for post vaccination Myocarditis. It isn't uncommon and often goes undetected in teens. Mild cases often go undiagnosed and untreated and self-resolve.
quote:
"Many cases of myocarditis likely go undetected because of asymptomatic presentations or nonspecific symptoms. For example, a recent study suggests that smallpox vaccination results in ˜1:200 patients having elevated troponin levels, whereas the prevalence of myocarditis has been estimated at ˜1:5500."
American Heart Association Journal Article - 2016
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:15 pm to 0x15E
My company’s HR emailed this morning say that when OSHA issues Xiden’s Mandate, they will review it and implement an appropriate plan. Therefore the company’s protocols remain the same until then… hopefully Gov. Abbott shuts that shite down. I’ll hold out as long as possible but in the end I need to keep paying for my truck nuts.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:17 pm to I B Freeman
quote:Yeah, go ahead and fire employees for contracting an illness. That'll work well for you
Employer ought to fire any employee who comes to work positive with COVID if they refused incentives for vaccinations.
To the OP, I don't have a mandate at work, but my two biggest clients just put mandates into effect. If I have to visit them, I'll have to be vaccinated and I don't typically get 1-2 months notice when I have a client to visit, so I went ahead and got vaccinated. I wasn't and I'm not "anti" vaccine, I just didn't think I needed it. I treated it the same way I typically treat the flu shot. I don't need it so I don't get it, if I have to get it for a client, I will. No big deal to me, not a hill that I'm going to die on.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:17 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Make em fire you, and find an attorney.
This will be tough to pull off now that the vaccine is fda approved. If you say that a school, company can’t require fully approved vaccines then that opens the door for people to not get any other vaccine.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:19 pm to madmaxvol
Not to argue with the seriousness of this particular complication, but 1:5500 is not what anyone would call “common.” That’s less than 0.02%.
Put it this way, fill Tiger Stadium with 100,000 people and give them all the vaccine. This suggests that less than 20 of those people will have myocarditis as a result.
Hardly “not uncommon.”
Put it this way, fill Tiger Stadium with 100,000 people and give them all the vaccine. This suggests that less than 20 of those people will have myocarditis as a result.
Hardly “not uncommon.”
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:26 pm to scott8811
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Not sure what my company is gonna do...our CEO was pushing hard with a $1,000 giveaway and pushing really nasty rhetoric towards unvaccinated...she got confronted by people who apparently she can't afford to lose and was told shut up or we walk....next day she sent around an email to every dept head basically saying CEASE any vaccine talk of any kind immediately.
This is what the idiot leftists on this board dont understand. Certain workers have far more value than others. If you have high value with your company they will do whatever is necessary to keep you. If you are such a person and refuse to vaccinate, they wont say shite. It will be covered up in the bureaucracy like everything else is.
But if you are a lazy peon they have been wanting to get rid of anyway? Oh yeah you are toast.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:29 pm to I B Freeman
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Employer ought to fire any employee who comes to work positive with COVID if they refused incentives for vaccinations.
Most large companies incentivize exercise, and will pay for your gym membership. I guess they should fire people that come into work overweight.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:29 pm to 0x15E
Got the shot. They have given it to 4.5 billion people, so they have immense amounts of data on it. I wasn’t in a hurry to get it but most all docs I’ve talked to told me the risk is way lower than with Covid. But I don’t have a Facebook Doctor wife, so I may not have the best information.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:31 pm to CougarBait
i got it. i make too much money here, and can't make that amount elsewhere at this time. no brainer choice imo.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:37 pm to shel311
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Because all of those things can be transmitted to multiple people in a department working closely together just like COVID.
The argument was about a loss of productivity. If the coworkers are vaccinated and masks work, they should t get COVID right?
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:39 pm to 0x15E
I have an okay job that I wouldn't mind working for another year or two and then moving on to something else. If they did this, then let them fire me. This is fricking America and I have the freedom to do what I want. My body my choice. I'll never put this stupid vaccine into my body. Go ahead and fire me and I'll find another job better than the previous one. So be it.
frick you Dictator Joe.
frick you Dictator Joe.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:40 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Not to argue with the seriousness of this particular complication, but 1:5500 is not what anyone would call “common.” That’s less than 0.02%. Put it this way, fill Tiger Stadium with 100,000 people and give them all the vaccine. This suggests that less than 20 of those people will have myocarditis as a result. Hardly “not uncommon.”
If you add up all of the other side effects, a significant portion that would survive Covid now have aggravating side effects from a supposedly safe shot. If someone forced me to get a shot after I “survived” COVID twice and I got a persistent ringing in my ears for weeks or months, I’d be pretty pissed. The vaccine wouldn’t be worth it at that point, especially since I have natural immunity for a time that may last longer than the damn shot.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:45 pm to madmaxvol
quote:
Much like Trump saying that we were seeing asymptomatic COVID numbers because we were testing for it...the same is true for post vaccination Myocarditis. It isn't uncommon and often goes undetected in teens. Mild cases often go undiagnosed and untreated and self-resolve.
The same is true for post COVID myocarditis.
Myocarditis is simply a tool used to fear monger at this point.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:55 pm to PurpleKnight88
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Thanks for clearing that up. So the issue isn't really a "government overreach" or "government forcing you to take a vaccine". It's really more of the vaccine not having been tested long enough for long-term impact as opposed to the long term impacts of having caught and survived Covid-19.
That's a weak twist and you know it. It's a vaccine that wasn't rigorously tested that is being mandated. And it's being mandated across the board with no regard for any other factors. They don't care if you've had COVID already. They don't care if, statistically, you are at a low risk of severe complications or death.
Comparing school vaccination requirements to this is ridiculous in many ways. First and foremost being that those vaccines do what they say they do, and no one is afraid of a vaccinated person getting Hep B from an unvaccinated person. Meanwhile, the COVID vaccine mandate is apparently meant to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.
How does that make sense? Isn't a vaccine supposed to protect me? Why do I need someone else to be vaccinated in order for me to be protected?
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:55 pm to 0x15E
I work in a plant and make 49.50/hr. I ain’t quitting. I’m very lucky to have this job.
Posted on 9/10/21 at 12:59 pm to I B Freeman
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will go one more step and say if you take food stamps you have to be vaccinated.
Welfare is not a right. There is nothing wrong with the government imposing requirements of responsibility on those who get the privilege of welfare.
This is what I want to see. Let’s see the tyrants go after their own dedicated flock. Quite the conundrum
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