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re: For those of you old enough to remember, how does this situation compare to 9/11
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 am to PrivatePublic
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 am to PrivatePublic
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9/11 was being thrown into a pot of boiling water for everyone in this country
Corona is sitting in a simmering pot wearing a heat proof suit while everyone screams at you that it’s boiling and you’re about to die even though there’s no chance you do for anyone under 60 that’s relatively heathy
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 8:54 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 am to Jeb Busch Lite
Not the same.
9/11 affected us all, but we got up off the canvas quickly. I think I may have had 1 cancelled class at LSU throughout the initial week.
It also encouraged major socialization. We were excited to go out and greet one another. Fred's and other bars had no fights that following weekend that I recall. Lots of 20 year old children learned to speak and engage as adults that weekend. Solidarity.
This is different. The enemy is invisible. And no one is doing anything but staying and and going to work if they have to...or an occasional trip to the grocery. It may be bringing us together, but in a much different way.
The journalism of the two are night and day.
For the OP...they are 2 of the biggest 3 catastrophes I have ever lived through. But that's about the only commonality I see.
9/11 affected us all, but we got up off the canvas quickly. I think I may have had 1 cancelled class at LSU throughout the initial week.
It also encouraged major socialization. We were excited to go out and greet one another. Fred's and other bars had no fights that following weekend that I recall. Lots of 20 year old children learned to speak and engage as adults that weekend. Solidarity.
This is different. The enemy is invisible. And no one is doing anything but staying and and going to work if they have to...or an occasional trip to the grocery. It may be bringing us together, but in a much different way.
The journalism of the two are night and day.
For the OP...they are 2 of the biggest 3 catastrophes I have ever lived through. But that's about the only commonality I see.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:55 am to AU66
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911 was really specific to just a part of New York, sad but not far reaching, we are shutting down half the worlds economy with the virus, It has never been done before, at best we pick back up where we started at worst businesses bust, bank foreclosures all over the country and we are looking at 1929 all over again.
And the 18 years of war that followed?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:57 am to Jeb Busch Lite
9/11 was a laceration that required stitches but got infected
CV - or more specifically the way it's being handled - severed a femoral artery and we're bleeding out - not from the virus itself but from shutting down the economy
CV - or more specifically the way it's being handled - severed a femoral artery and we're bleeding out - not from the virus itself but from shutting down the economy
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:57 am to choupiquesushi
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And the 18 years of war that followed?
Problem with this point is that 12 or 13 of the 18 years of war that followed were by choice.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 8:58 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:59 am to Flyingtiger82
If you’re talking raw “death toll”, sure... but 9/11 changed literally EVERYTHING about our way of life and the entire country was fearful and scared at every turn. It wasn’t like this “only essential workers (unless you don’t care enough)”... people were literally “scared”, young and old, to do anything.
And in the following days, you couldn’t travel, work, etc. The entire WORLD was just watching the news 24/7 for WEEKS.
And in the following days, you couldn’t travel, work, etc. The entire WORLD was just watching the news 24/7 for WEEKS.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:59 am to yankeeundercover
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9/11 was 100% scarier.
At first blush, this statement is correct. And for a day or two it continued since we were unaware of the extent of the attack plans.
Now, however, I feel like we are aware of the dangers of C-19 and it is getting scary due to what the projections are over the next month.
If just 115k die, that is twice the loss is life in Vietnam??? I don't think the country is emotionally and spiritually ready for that.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:59 am to Jeb Busch Lite
Two entirely different things, both hugely impactful in different ways.
In junior year in the Central High School gym at career day and all of a sudden "did you hear the white house was bombed?" Is how it started..
Rumors spread so fast and the impact was shocking. We finished the day watching the rest of the events unfold in class. My dad got home from work that day with tears in his eyes, with brand new USA flags to raise at our house.
I'll never ever forget that feeling and the months that followed.
This is entirely different. A slow burn and every day seems like we are losing more and more hope, and shutting schools down is unheard of. Once they started cancelling major stuff like that it started to feel really odd.
Will never forget this either, and the uncertainty about the future and how we get back to work bothers me.
I really feel like we are in the start of an dystopian type movie
In junior year in the Central High School gym at career day and all of a sudden "did you hear the white house was bombed?" Is how it started..
Rumors spread so fast and the impact was shocking. We finished the day watching the rest of the events unfold in class. My dad got home from work that day with tears in his eyes, with brand new USA flags to raise at our house.
I'll never ever forget that feeling and the months that followed.
This is entirely different. A slow burn and every day seems like we are losing more and more hope, and shutting schools down is unheard of. Once they started cancelling major stuff like that it started to feel really odd.
Will never forget this either, and the uncertainty about the future and how we get back to work bothers me.
I really feel like we are in the start of an dystopian type movie
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:00 am to kciDAtaE
I'm sure it's enlightening, virtuous, and so brave. I'll pass.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:01 am to Jeb Busch Lite
Not remotely similar. 911 was shocking, this ismore like a slow, drawn out drama.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:07 am to LCA131
quote:Which 115k?
If just 115k die, that is twice the loss is life in Vietnam??? I don't think the country is emotionally and spiritually ready for that.
Literally, generations LOST to World Wars... The thousands upon thousands of young men lost in Korea/Vietnam... the thousands who were killed in one fell swoop in 9/11... the thousands killed in “combat” in Iraq/Afghanistan...
We’ve been through pandemics before (SARS, Ebola, etc) but 9/11 changed our outlook on life, the world, and our sense of safety forever.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:08 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:09 am to yankeeundercover
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but 9/11 changed our outlook on life, the world, and our safety forever
COVID-19 is going to change a lot of things. You can book that.
There will be many, many permanent changes to how society operates
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:12 am to Stingy
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I'm sure it's enlightening, virtuous, and so brave. I'll pass.
Just give it up dude. You made a dumb comment. Own it.
You called the worst terrorist attack in US history “a mess for a few months”. The phrase “Never Forget” was coined for exactly this reason - after 20 years someone calling 9/11 “a mess for a few months“
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:13 am to musick
quote:Most likely health industry “preparedness”.. but how does that affect the other 99% of us?
There will be many, many permanent changes to how society operates
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:14 am to terd ferguson
quote:I was also active duty at the time. 9/11 feels more like a 5-10 year era to me than the brief event that many are recalling. My life and the years that followed were affected drastically by that day.
9/11 was much bigger for me than this bc I was in the military at the time. A lot of things changed and changed quickly following that day. So far this coronavirus thing has just been a mild inconvenience (although that could change).
That said, I was aware that the rest of the country had mostly returned to business as usual. This feels like an entirely different animal and the shock waves are likely to be far more visceral for not just Americans, but the entire world. I'm flabbergasted when I hear people say that we'll be back to 'normal'in a couple of months. I think that world's gone but I would love to be wrong.
We'll adapt and keep it moving though. It may not have happened in our lifetimes but humanity has been through many of these events, some far more lethal. The ability to be flexible is more important than ever though, because life is about to toss some curveballs.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:16 am to yankeeundercover
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Literally, generations LOST to World Wars...
No, they weren't, not literally.
Those were all a seen enemy and it took years for to happen. It was somewhat understood who and why the bad guys were.
Ç19 is going to take 100k in, perhaps, a month moving forward and by and large the MSM is blaming the President.
Just pointing out differences...imo.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:34 am to yankeeundercover
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but 9/11 changed literally EVERYTHING about our way of life and the entire country was fearful and scared at every turn.
Not to be disrespectful or argumentative, because I see your point and I do somewhat agree with it (enjoy an upvote) but I’m pretty sure things won’t be the same after this either. My coworker and I both said we won’t shake hands again. We will see I suppose, but I think restaurants, concerts, crowds, airports etc will all have a different look after this. I may be dead wrong, and I hope I am, because I miss not having to disrobe just to get on a damn plane. I miss buying a car without a Patriot Act check, I miss walking up and going inside government buildings without a hassle. I miss the Twin Towers. But I truly think it will be a different world, and yes I’m glued to the need about as much as I was on 9/11. Just not nearly as interesting nor as much as on 9/11.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:49 am to rmnldr
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There won’t be a pre-Covid19 and a post-Covid19 world
Ummm there's this thing called "The New Normal."
Right now, the television advertisements are programming us to believe that our living rooms are our new classrooms and offices.
It's a lockdown world bro and we're just living in it. After Covid is over, elements of the lockdown are going to be sticking around for good to "protect us and the environment."
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:50 am to LCA131
quote:You’re better than this...
No, they weren't, not literally
eta: this is the second time recently that I’ve said that to you
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:53 am to Jeb Busch Lite
i've told my kids (when this started) that this was their 9/11.
it's far surpassed that. Outside of the war and cost of gas, life was back to normal outside of NYC and the people that were affected by the loss of life two weeks later. not making light of that at all, but the rest of the nation was back to normal with maybe a bigger sense of national pride.
i have no idea when we'll have a semblance of normalcy. i'm hoping by May but
it's far surpassed that. Outside of the war and cost of gas, life was back to normal outside of NYC and the people that were affected by the loss of life two weeks later. not making light of that at all, but the rest of the nation was back to normal with maybe a bigger sense of national pride.
i have no idea when we'll have a semblance of normalcy. i'm hoping by May but
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:55 am
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