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Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:41 am to
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How can a hair salon, stylists, skin care, make up artists etc ever have social distancing?


PPE meaures
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:42 am to
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You can’t have a hair salon, dine-in restaurant, non-emergency dental office, elective surgeries businesses open while having a social distancing order in place



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Nonsense.

You can operate all of these at some capacity with social distancing methods.




Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:42 am to
Had to get a handle on it. It was spreading too quickly to half arse control it. Once we have a handle on it we can implement measures that keep the spread down. We can now also test at an appropriate capacity to monitor outbreaks
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:42 am to
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PPE meaures



That's not social distancing
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
Member since Dec 2019
1364 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:43 am to
A smart person could turn those lightening bolts into “19” in the same style and win the internet.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99793 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:46 am to
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PPE meaures


How is that social distancing?

You ready for a cut or that make up job???





I'm sure this will work out well
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:46 am to
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PPE meaures


That's not social distancing


Sure it is.

There is more to social distancing that staying 6 feet away from people. It is limiting human-to-human contact. Obviously, the most effective way is not going near a person but there are plenty of other ways to limit human-to-human contact.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:47 am to
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quote:
How can a hair salon, stylists, skin care, make up artists etc ever have social distancing?


PPE meaures


Then why aren't they open? If they can safely operate, why are they forced to close?
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:50 am to
Or just this . . .




Want to know why countries like Japan have a hold on this without shutting down their economy despite having a much higher population density than the US?


Another issue with stupid Americans. How many people have you already heard ranting that they aren't wearing some stupid masks?

No solution is good enough for them.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99793 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:51 am to
Lol then why are all those places shut down if that's all that's needed

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:51 am to
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Then why aren't they open?


Again, Louisiana's R(0) was over three 15 days ago. Drastic measures were needed to slow it.


Get over the curve, implement less stringent regulations, and require compliance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:53 am to
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Drastic measures were needed to slow it.


So what your saying is they can't safely operate even with PPE.



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Get over the curve, implement less stringent regulations, and require compliance.


If this virus is that dangerous, it will then return like the Spanish flue.

If you butpy into the "flatten the curve philosophy" then you'll agree we will be in this situation for months

It's either super deadly or itsnot.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 11:56 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:54 am to
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So what your saying is they can't safely operate even with PPE.


Nope.

Compliance was the biggest issue
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99793 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:56 am to
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Drastic measures were needed to slow it.


So what your saying is they can't safely operate even with PPE.



Arent you like this every time someone tries to make excuses



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:57 am to
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Compliance was the biggest issue




I mean, you're backtracking here.

Can these businesses safely operate or not? If no, this s situation is going to continue a long time.

Didn't you just say they could operate under guidelines with PPE?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:59 am to
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Arent you like this every time someone tries to make excuses



He claims they can operate safely under PPE guidelines, then says they need to be shut down.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:00 pm to
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Get over the curve
There is no “get over the curve” without prolonged shutdown.

It is as if y’all think shutting everything down and flattening the curve makes everything go faster.

None of it works that way.

With the actual management that y’all want, the cure will definitely be worse than the disease.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:01 pm to
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There is no “get over the curve” without prolonged shutdown.


Thank you. We are looking at being shut down all summer under this "flatten the curve" philosophy, compliance or no compliance.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:02 pm to
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He claims they can operate safely under PPE guidelines, then says they need to be shut down.



They needed to be shut down (past tense) because of the spread rate and lack of compliance.

They could operate under these guidelines (future tense) when spread has minimized and compliance is much more likely.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:06 pm to
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They needed to be shut down (past tense) because of the spread rate and lack of compliance


Compliance is never going to change, period.

Either these businesses can operate safely or not. Why not order these businesses and clientele to protect themselves and leave them open if it can be done safely?

Fine them for non compliance, ban people from facilities who aren't protected.

This is what you said




quote:

Nonsense.

You can operate all of these at some capacity with social distancing methods.



Shutting them down was an overreaction, period if they can be operated safely.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 12:08 pm
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