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re: For all the supporters of losing rights due to a cough
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:34 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:34 pm to Scruffy
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That isn’t how this works. Damn, this is frustrating having to repeat this over and over again.
This plan of decreasing the R(0), flattening the curve, etc., is not something that gets “quickly under control”.
You're just wrong on this.
Other countries are doing it successfully and managing outbreaks. If we reduce the transmission rate to less than R(1), then we can reopen parts of society with social distancing requirement to maintain around an R(1) transmission rate which won't overwhelm hospitals and give patients the best chance of survival.
You keep assuming that we go from lockdown to full-blown 100,000 people in Tiger Stadium and then have subsequent huge spikes.
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It is not a quick process.
To get back to "normal"?
No, it won't be quick.
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We really need to reach a middle ground
What I just described is the middle ground.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:36 pm to Scruffy
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This plan of decreasing the R(0), flattening the curve, etc., is not something that gets “quickly under control”.
I think we have to define "under control" to really discuss.
In my view, "under control" means not seeing increase in rates of new cases. A stabilization in the growth rate.
We can't lock down until the whole thing is gone, but I would expect our growth rates to level off in the coming weeks.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:37 pm to Jack Daniel
It’s the state governors making these decisions.
Thank God for Trump or else we’d all be under house arrest.
Thanks again Facebook mob.
Thank God for Trump or else we’d all be under house arrest.
Thanks again Facebook mob.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:37 pm to Rhino5
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Thank God for Trump or else we’d all be under house arrest.
lmao
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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then we can reopen parts of society with social distancing
What keepsit from exploding again? Like the Spanish Flu?
It's r can it be done safely?
Flattening the curve isbased on strict adherence to social distancing and government intrusion. It lasts longer, it doesnt end more quickly.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:40 pm to cahoots
Our stay at home order is nothing. The French are not fricking around
I moved to Paris during lockdown and couldn't explore farther than a kilometer.
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France, like many other countries around the world, has entered a stringent lockdown and ordered residents to stay indoors. Any non-essential outing can draw a fine of up to €200 ($210).
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Now we need a signed and dated permission form -- or "attestation" -- to leave the house once a day, and can't venture farther than one kilometer in any which direction, for no longer than an hour.
I moved to Paris during lockdown and couldn't explore farther than a kilometer.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:40 pm to Rhino5
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It’s the state governors making these decisions.
Thank God for Trump or else we’d all be under house arrest.
Do you even watch Trump's press conference where he talks about body bags and how this upcoming will see huge surges of deaths?
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:42 pm to Twenty 49
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Now we need a signed and dated permission form -- or "attestation" -- to leave the house once a day, and can't venture farther than one kilometer in any which direction, for no longer than an hour.
Lots of folks here would support this. I imagine 100% of supporters still have an income.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:43 pm to Unknown_Poster
The president didn’t setup the checkpoints. That’s the governors call.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Why june? Why not august or September? Why not wait till we have a vaccine? Gotta save some lives, right? What's the metric for "getting back?" A cure? A vaccine? "Flatten the curve?" I've seen no metrics for reducing restrictions, only plans for increasing them.
Oh i have no idea i was just listening to what everyone said.
I have no clue to be honest
We still send 1/3 of my group into the office and rotate who’s on the desk etc
So I’m not gonna really complain what’s going on right now
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:44 pm to Unknown_Poster
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Are you also aware the Trump administration is looking to track people via cell phone data to contain the virus?
You probably love that.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:44 pm to Rhino5
Level of scapegoating = lol. Maybe, just maybe, your god emperor isn't everything you thought he was? But, please, don't let critical thinking upset your pathetically tribal world view.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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then we can reopen parts of society with social distancing
What keepsit from exploding again?
For the third time - significant social distancing requirements, rapid testing, and patient tracking.
I got to roll; I have to get some stuff done around the house today. Good talk, stay safe.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:47 pm to Unknown_Poster
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Level of scapegoating = lol. Maybe, just maybe, your god emperor isn't everything you thought he was? But, please, don't let critical thinking upset your pathetically tribal world view.
I’m not a poli board Trump zealot. He warned it was dangerous and each governor is taking whatever actions they feel necessary.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:47 pm to Twenty 49
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Now we need a signed and dated permission form -- or "attestation" -- to leave the house once a day, and can't venture farther than one kilometer in any which direction, for no longer than an hour.
Who the frick writes the permission slip?
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:50 pm to cahoots
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In theory
Wonderful, shut down people's livelihood.
My opinion is we didn't have to shut mom and pop down, they can safely operate with "distancing" requirements.
I believe in the end this will be viewed as folly. Probably a quarter of the country is out of money.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:51 pm to cahoots
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 12:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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