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Florida has some really messed up Covid numbers

Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:34 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:34 pm
I know this week we had the revelation that labs were reporting positives only. But we should have seen this coming based on what’s been going on there the last month with the data. See the two stories below:

Fox News July 16: Florida showing 31% positive rate for people under 18

The important numbers:
quote:

Florida had tested 54,022 Florida residents under the age of 18, according to the state’s COVID-19 pediatric report on July 10. Of those tests, 16,797, or just over 31 percent, have come back positive.


FloridaToday June 16: Florida positivity rate double for kids at 9.2%

The important numbers:
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But that younger age group tested positive at almost twice the rate as the state as a whole, according to FDOH's new pediatric COVID-19 case report released June 12. Statewide, 3,407 residents under age 18 have tested positive, or 9.2% of the 37,211 tested


So we are to believe that over that last month, ~17k kids have been tested and ~13k were positive for a 76% positivity rate?!?!

This is fricking bullshite.
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9498 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:35 pm to
At this point, I don’t trust any fricking numbers or stats.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:38 pm to
Of course you don’t. And who should when shite like this is happening? And as obvious as this is, how could people not find out? The problem is that no one will do anything about it. People are actually going to believe that 30% of Florida’s kids... nearly 1.3 million out of 4.3 million... have covid right now. Idiots.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

At this point, I don’t trust any fricking numbers or stats.



Lots of incentives for getting China Virus patients in the door.

Its a major scam.

If you are dumb enough to believe the numbers you probably wear a mask.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:39 pm to
Case numbers don't mean jack at this point.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:41 pm to
Positivity rate used to mean something. And it’s even a factor from moving from phase to phase. This is pure manipulation.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76252 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:41 pm to
They have completely lost all control over these test numbers and reporting.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see the Feds step in soon.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:54 pm to
Either the labs/medical facilities are lying or the state is lying.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61384 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:56 pm to
This is what happens when COVID cases are monetarily incentivized
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47793 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:57 pm to
They are also saying that some places are saving their numbers for a week or more, then turning them in. They then all get credit for the day they were turned in.

DeSantis has been a pretty good governor up until covid. He turned this state's reaction into a cartoon abortion.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:03 pm to
You’ve monetized covid and shut down elective procedures. What the frick did you expect to happen? Labs aren’t getting paid for routine bloodwork. Hospitals aren’t taking elective surgeries and procedures. This is all they have to stay afloat so... here we are. Supply and demand.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118276 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7088 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:09 pm to
The good news is DeSantis is not JBE. He won’t let those obviously false numbers dictate his decisions.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7088 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

DeSantis has been a pretty good governor up until covid. He turned this state's reaction into a cartoon abortion.


Have you watched anything DeSantis has said or done? He has called bullshite on all of this including the media coverage.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16231 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:13 pm to
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So we are to believe that over that last month, ~17k kids have been tested and ~13k were positive for a 76% positivity rate?!?!


For the most part kids only get tested when they have symptoms. Kids don’t fall into the groups who have to get tested for work etc. That percentage is still high.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88469 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:16 pm to
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For the most part kids only get tested when they have symptoms. Kids don’t fall into the groups who have to get tested for work etc.
Oh I agree. It’s what explains the 9.2% number back in June and it makes sense. But that 31% number was someone someone shared with me today and it just didn’t seem right which is what got me digging.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47793 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:38 pm to
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Have you watched anything DeSantis has said or done? He has called bullshite on all of this including the media coverage
Just one example off of the top of my head. The percentage of positives went down a little. He was on TV crowing about "We are flattening the curve." Meanwhile, the number of new cases and deaths is shooting up. We were setting records a day or 2 before he said that.

Also, Rick Scott fricked up the unemployment system when he was Gov. Desantis has left it broken. He keeps claiming it is working, or that it is all claimants filling it out wrong. That is a lie. I son't know the numbers now, but a few weeks ago, 1.3 million had been paid. 900,000 had not. That is almost 4 months into it.

It is shite.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Marathon, FL
Member since Oct 2005
14753 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 11:42 pm to
Anyone who believes the doctors that see these numbers and are trotted out on national news to say the nation needs to cower in place is a fool. This is 100% politicized bullshite. Anything to influence the election and give the democrats ammo against the GOP, even if it means kids that don't see a classroom for a year, the destruction of countless small (and large) businesses, and all of the other REAL side-effects of a long term shutdown.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13661 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:21 am to
I'd likely place a large wager of money that the pediatric centers doing these tests did like some of these other shite places and sent only positive results in and not the full allotment of tests given.

So you are telling me, they have been getting back over 30,000 tests per day on average the last month, so 900,000 tests in the last month, but only 17,000 of those tested were under 18?

So only 2% of the tests went to people under the age of 18?


Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:17 am to
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At this point, I don’t trust any fricking numbers or stats.
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