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Flooding concerns from neighbors new patio

Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by nolatiger711
Metairie, LA
Member since Oct 2009
767 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:07 pm
My neighbor and I have a pretty decent relationship. We don't come to each other's houses for dinner, but chat out front occasionally. He's been doing a bunch of updates on his house because he's probably looking to sell. (He mentioned his timeframe for living in New Orleans when he moved in before moving back home, and it is about that time.)

He said he was replacing the patio which was a 8' x 12' or so slab with an old metal covering. He used to have some areas that would flood a bit on the side and had gravel for about 2-3' between the fence and old patio.

Today, I see they just finished pouring a slab that runs the entire length of the fence from his backdoor on my side that is about 3 inches above ground level and is now all the way to our shared fence. I doubt they set it to run off into his own yard, and I couldn't ask anything because I don't speak Spanish.

I plan on asking him about it, but wanted to know what rights I have if things become rough. Is the answer that it is his yard so it doesn't matter if I start to flood and it's my problem now? Should he have to help solve whatever problems it creates for me?


TL;DR-
Friendly neighbor's new patio now runs entire length of fence and makes the area from his house along our shared property line solid concrete set 3" above ground level. If this causes my yard to flood now, do I have any recourse? (Yes, I am going to chat with him about it before taking serious measures.)
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:09 pm to
have to run those renters out baw
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2505 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:09 pm to
Are there no permit restrictions for how close a concrete slab can be to the fence?

We recently added a pool in our backyard and had bad drainage issues after. Just installed a new 4”drain line on that side of the house, you can talk to him and see if he will pay for one on you side if the water is an issue, but I would talk to him now before there is a problem. Maybe they did run one underneath the slab.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Friendly neighbor's new patio now runs entire length of fence and makes the area from his house along our shared property line solid concrete set 3" above ground level. If this causes my yard to flood now, do I have any recourse?


You might. I don't think a neighbor can just alter their property in a way that causes damage to yours.

He needs to put in proper drainage.

Was this a DIY project? I swear, nobody ever thinks about drainage when they do these things.
This post was edited on 10/5/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8374 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:12 pm to
Had a similar issue with a neighbor. Built an elevated garden on my side that acted like a dam. Flooded the shite out of his yard. He fixed his problem.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:14 pm to
You’re borrowing problems. Wait and see if it’s even something to cry about
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37811 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:16 pm to
You should have thought about this before never inviting him over for dinner
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
3774 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:18 pm to
I'd document everything!
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
671 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:19 pm to
La Civil Code art. 655
quote:

Art. 655. Natural drainage. An estate situated below is bound to receive the surface waters that flow naturally from an estate situated above unless an act of man has created the flow.


La Civil Code Art 656

quote:

Art. 656. Obligations of the owners. The owner of the servient estate may not do anything to prevent the flow of the water. The owner of the dominant estate may not do anything to render the servitude more burdensome.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:19 pm to
Usually there is legal recourse for changing the flood pattern/zone that impacts someone else. 1) Talk with him 2) See if is an issue during a rain 3) Get legal involved if needed.

You cant just funnel your water onto someone else’s property if it hasn’t existed like that previously. You have a case in my opinion.
This post was edited on 10/5/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21449 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

You might. I don't think a neighbor can just alter their property in a way that causes damage to yours.

He needs to put in proper drainage.

Was this a DIY project? I swear, nobody ever thinks about drainage when they do these things.


All true. Especially the last statement.

As someone else also said, make sure there is a problem before confronting.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8374 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:23 pm to
In my case I’d talked to my neighbor concerning how his property drained on mine. He kept saying he would fix it but didn’t. Rather than go the legal route I just fixed my problem. I even told ole baw about it. Landscape timbers and dirt, done.
Posted by nolatiger711
Metairie, LA
Member since Oct 2009
767 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:25 pm to
Thanks everyone for the quick advice. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making things up in my head about him not being able to do that if it causes problems for me. I would think we can figure things out amicably, unless he is done being friendly neighbor since he will be moving out of state.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18802 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

The owner of the dominant estate may not do anything to render the servitude more burdensome.


seems pretty cut and dry here. unless your properties are level. in which case, i don't see why the same shouldn't apply.

Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
671 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:30 pm to
if they are level then you cannot change grade to where the drainage then goes to the neighboring estate where it did not before.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6253 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:42 pm to
I would certainly have a friendly conversation with him today or tomorrow.

Something like... "that's a nice looking slab you poured, I wonder if when the water runs off of it directly into the fence if it's going to impact my drainage?" See what he says... at least you'll know what he's thinking, and he'll know that you're concerned.

Wait for rain, take pics, and go to the OT for legal advice if needed.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18802 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

if they are level then you cannot change grade to where the drainage then goes to the neighboring estate where it did not before.



doesn't sound like neighbor is changing grade. if i'm imagining correctly he's extending a level plane to the edge of the property
Posted by LSUGRAD2008
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2018
479 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:52 pm to
pour a slab 1" higher on your side
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18956 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:56 pm to
Agreed. Tell him everything looks good and ask him where the water intends to drain...if he points anywhere near your fence or he doesn’t know then you know you have something.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57473 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 2:01 pm to
Dudes about to move out and laugh all the way home thinking about intentionally flooding your yard
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