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re: FL taxpayers to absorb over 1 billion in bond obligations due to Disney exemption repeal

Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:45 pm to
There are a lot of surprising defenders of corporate welfare coming out of this drama.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37682 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:48 pm to
Typical pedo comment.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:51 pm to

One of your heroes ITT bought into this fantasy land and has been "30+ times". Tell Ell to stop spanking it to Tinkerbell if you have the balls.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37682 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:56 pm to
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One of your heroes ITT bought into this fantasy land and has been "30+ times". Tell Ell to stop spanking it to Tinkerbell if you have the balls.


Be more weird and incomprehensible, scum prog.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:59 pm to

So, you condone repeat offender pedophilia year after year. Hope you're not a father.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31324 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:18 am to
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Right, WDW is an absolute immovable object. Best they can do is start building a new one in a state willing to give them the keys to the castle and maybe sunset FL operations in 50 years.

I’m going to say they couldn’t even do that. What would you put the value on the resort complex? In the tens of trillions? More?

No company is walking away from that. Not. Going. To happen. Especially not for virtue signaling. Their CEO would be fired that night for even suggesting it.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:59 am to
Yeah my grandpa buddies believed that too about the springhill IP paper mill. It was the biggest or second biggest in the world. They got pissed off and took that mfer away piece by piece. I don’t care much for disney but i hate idiot politicians even more. This mfer thinks he is going to be president one day.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87204 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:11 am to
Did you just accuse me of being a pedophile?

My parents joined DVC in 1992. I was a young kid. We went often. I bought into DVC in 2013 when my son was born. Didn’t keep the contracts very long. Sold the first in 2019 and the second in 2020. It wasn’t for us. The experiences and planning became too much work and didn’t feel like a vacation anymore. We still traveled throughout the year. We never just went to Disney.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:23 am to
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I really doubt Desantis, the Florida House, and Florida Senate are going to frick the taxpayers over just to get back at Disney. They know what they are doing.


They threw this bill together in about a week, maybe even less. This special session was actually called to pass district lines and they added this bill to the calendar. The process is hugely complex and the bill doesn’t really address any of those complexities. But then the bill doesn’t actually rescind the special district, it sets up a deadline of June 2023 to assess whether to do so.

I said in another thread I think this is an election year stunt and the Florida legislature will quietly back off and let the June 2023 deadline come and go with no action.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:26 am to
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What would you put the value on the resort complex? In the tens of trillions? More?

Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19102 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:28 am to
Genius now libtards will once in their lives bitch about govt spending
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16955 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:30 am to
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Genius now libtards will once in their lives bitch about govt spending



Yep, seeing the left crying because a multi-billion dollar business is losing special tax credits is..........interesting
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11625 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:35 am to
Other reporting around impact to the counties and citizens (which includes comments from local county officials) uses lots of words like “if” and “may” and it nowhere as certain as this hit piece article.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:52 am to
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uses lots of words like “if” and “may” and it nowhere as certain as this hit piece article.
Thats from the actual person who proposed the bill

Take of your tribal glasses for a second, and read what the Politician said who proposed the bill. Does it really sound confident? Does it really sound like she flushed out how much this bill actually impacts tax payers? Be honest
quote:


Republican State Senator Jennifer Bradley, who sponsored the legislation in the Florida Senate, said the current bill would not cancel any debt. The bill calls for the districts to be dissolved as of June 1, 2023, barring any further legislative action.

“This bill says that there is a year to come back and let’s have a legislative discussion about the validity and scope of that district,” she said. “And should we go down that road of dissolution, there’ll be careful consideration of all of the issues. It will be a complicated transaction to be sure.”

When pressed on the issue of possible debt cancellation, Bradley said she wasn’t sure what would happen. “That’s something that I can’t speak to,” she said. “Because I don’t know how that dissolution would play out and what would happen with those debts before we get there and that allocation occurs.”

Bradley was unable to say who wrote the bill, other than noting that she had received it from “professional bill drafters” before introducing it Tuesday.

Analysts at S&P Global Ratings said they’re monitoring the situation and waiting for final legislation to make an assessment.

“The State of Florida has made many legal promises to bondholders of Reedy Creek,” said Eric Kazatsky, Bloomberg Intelligence senior strategist. “Namely they have promised not to alter the rights of the District or impair the rights of bondholders, and more importantly impair the exemption of the assets and properties of the District. Trying to walk those back will be a huge legal hurdle
.” Sounds an awful lot like “Well we have to pass the bill to know what’s in it” doesn’t it?


It is what it is. Republicans played pure politics, went for grandstanding headlines, and didn’t care about actual implications

I vote Republican, will continue to vote Republican, will support Desantis for president, but a spade is a spade
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:02 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73238 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:03 am to
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Florida Man subjects local taxpayers to higher property taxes all in an effort to pander to his base.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73238 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:06 am to
Thank you for being honest.
This is insane that they would think this is a good idea.

I think people don't realize Orlando citizens just voted to pay $125 million to fix a road leading to a new universal park. Now every road in disney hasn't cost the tax payers to this point.


This whole thing was a stupid stupid ploy to get the red team excited.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:08 am to
You believe this?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:12 am to
Current assessments are around a half billion a park.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:14 am to
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You believe this?
Its simple honestly. Listen to the complete non committal from Republican law makers that passed this bill

“Well we will have to see how the debt is paid”. Really? You passed and wrote the fricking bill Just admit you will let it go away before June 2023

Either the tax payers offset the debt, or you put Disney in a special district(what they currently have) to incur the debt. There is zero legal recourse otherwise.

Hell the people mad at me are saying “Desantis will just tax Disney more!!!”

Let’s start there

1. You think a governor can jsur dexide “frick that company I’m taxing them double everyone else?

2. You suppose the idea of a governor choosing to tax enemies as much as he wants?
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:17 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297072 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:16 am to
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Yep, seeing the left crying


You see the same arguments in various forums across the internet. This point of view isn't organic, its propaganda.

Really stupid people love click bait and propaganda. They melt now because they know its not going to turn out like they pray it does.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:17 am
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