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re: First Year Attorney Starting Salary?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:38 pm to Martini
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:38 pm to Martini
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All of my Attorney friends my age complain about the younger attorneys work ethics and have a hard time finding ones wanting to put the hours in. My MD friends have the same complaints.
probably find that in every profession.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:39 pm to TheOcean
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Not everyone enjoys working 60+/week for years.
Oddly enough, I think people used too.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:40 pm to MorbidTheClown
I'm sure that's true. We can just bla,e the millennial s
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:42 pm to Jim Smith
Older generations, yes. Our generation has realized that you've only got one life -- it's better not spent behind a desk.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:54 pm to TheOcean
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Our generation has realized that you've only got one life -- it's better not spent behind a desk.
Healthy work-life balance is key. I stayed away from the large firms because I enjoy having a life outside of work.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:55 pm to Martini
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This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:18 pm to Gnarkill
Since you ask such an ill formed question one wonders if you are mentally deficient.
You should go military if they will have you.
They will pay your tuition once you have served 1 year.
Tit for tat as you go along over time.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:21 pm to Martini
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I own a business. 65 hours a week minimum for 35 years. Peanuts.
I will say this. All of my Attorney friends my age complain about the younger attorneys work ethics and have a hard time finding ones wanting to put the hours in. My MD friends have the same complaints.
Meh. You all just sound like a bunch of grumpy old men yelling for people to get off your lawns.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:22 pm to FearTheFish
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Healthy work-life balance is key. I stayed away from the large firms because I enjoy having a life outside of work.
It's driven a lot by the type of work that you do too. While I'm not a 9 to 5 person, and while I do work on vacations, holidays and weekends at time, I feel like my position is not too bad.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:42 pm to boosiebadazz
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...but you're going to have the billable hour requirements.
What happens if you don't bill the minimum required? Get the boot, turn $$ back in?
I assume compensation would be x hours minimum plus percentage of billing over x hours?
Not sure how the large and reputable firms pay.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:58 pm to captainahab
Probationary program to get you up to the required amount or just let you go.
Bill you out at $200/hour for 2,000 billable hours= $400,000 revenue. Pay you $95,000 and $305,000 goes to overhead/administrative/ partner's pockets. $200 an hour and 2,000 hours are both conservative estimates as well
Bill you out at $200/hour for 2,000 billable hours= $400,000 revenue. Pay you $95,000 and $305,000 goes to overhead/administrative/ partner's pockets. $200 an hour and 2,000 hours are both conservative estimates as well
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:01 pm to captainahab
quote:Depends on how far below the minimum. Could get fired, could delay partnership track, could just get more partners dumping shite work on you knowing you can't use the too busy excuse.
What happens if you don't bill the minimum required?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:11 pm to captainahab
Depends on which minimum. The general trend for biglaw is 1800-1900 billable, minimum, to remain in good standing; 2000 billable to be eligible for bonuses.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It's driven a lot by the type of work that you do too. While I'm not a 9 to 5 person, and while I do work on vacations, holidays and weekends at time, I feel like my position is not too bad.
Ya, the wife works about 9-7 with a couple hours here in there on weekends and stuff. She seems happy with it. Was making less doing the same hours at a smaller firm so no loss to her.
My brother in law is also in big law and his life blows dick. He's in banking and seems to be pulling 7am to 11pm on the regular. Just made partner.
I'd kill myself.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:15 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Ya, the wife works about 9-7 with a couple hours here in there on weekends and stuff. She seems happy with it. Was making less doing the same hours at a smaller firm so no loss to her.
That's the Holy Grail, man. Good for her.
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My brother in law is also in big law and his life blows dick. He's in banking and seems to be pulling 7am to 11pm on the regular. Just made partner.
I'd kill myself.
Yep, sounds awful. Just about every worker bee M&A person I know is like that too. I got very lucky to fall into the practice I'm in.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:16 pm to Jim Smith
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A firm in Lafayette requires like 2300.
pretty sure this is Preis & Roy
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
yeth
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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pretty sure this is Preis & Roy
It's crazy is what it is. I can't even think of too many biglaw firms in NYC that require that.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:18 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I got very lucky to fall into the practice I'm in.
The one variable that no one can tell a prospective student.
For one, what kind of law you practice is basically who will hire you out of law school.
Then it's who knows what the culture of the firm/practice group is.
Those things can rapidly change how worth it is and you don't have much control over it
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:20 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
I used to work at a regional firm in Memphis. Now that I have a 9 month old son, I think back to the hours I worked just out of law school, and I can't imagine doing that with a kid. I would never go back to that schedule because I would hardly ever see my son.
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