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re: First Year Attorney Starting Salary?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:04 pm to Martini
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:04 pm to Martini
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If a 40 hour week that is only 47.5 weeks so I don't see it as unreasonable- specifically for I'm guessing a 1st year associate?
And I see the minimum you mention - just saying I don't think of that number as a lot. I put that in now and have for 35 years not in the law either.
Yeah, 1900 isn't slave driving. A firm in Lafayette requires like 2300.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:05 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
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Big firms (Kean Miller, Jones Walker, Phelps) pay in the 90s for first year associates. Get a raise every year, but it's only a couple grand or so.
Kean Miller was starting in the 70's like 3 years ago according to kids I know that were getting jobs there
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:06 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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lawyers can almost never bill 40/40
My point was I don't see it as an unreasonable amount of hours to bill - certainly not slave territory.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:06 pm to Martini
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a 40 hour week that is only 47.5 weeks so I don't see it as unreasonable- specifically for I'm guessing a 1st year associate?
Billable hours bro, not hours worked. So don't include education, meetings, TD time, transportation time, etc. I'm not a lawyer by any means, but something around 75-80% is a pretty good billable time to time on the clock.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:07 pm to Jim Smith
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A firm in Lafayette requires like 2300.
2300 a year is what it takes baw. Nobody said practicing gumbo law was going to be easy.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:07 pm to Martini
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My point was I don't see it as an unreasonable amount of hours to bill - certainly not slave territory.
you don't understand. 40 hours per week billable means working ~65 at least
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:09 pm to Jim Smith
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A firm in Lafayette requires like 2300.
That's a joke
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:09 pm to Elleshoe
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you don't understand. 40 hours per week billable means working ~65 at least
I think weekend work is expected.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:10 pm to Jim Smith
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A firm in Lafayette requires like 2300.
Sweet baby jesus! I don't think the firm I work for requires that of associates, and we're well into the AmLaw 100.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:10 pm to Jim Smith
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I think weekend work is expected.
yeah, I didn't enjoy that part of defense work for the small amount of time I did that
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:11 pm to Martini
??
They probably have to work 60-80 to bill 40
They probably have to work 60-80 to bill 40
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:13 pm to TheOcean
No I think it was like Pries Roy or something like that. Some absolutely ridiculous requirement.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:13 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
And you bill an hour or whatever for preparing for the deposition and then the billable review company hired by your client, the insurance company, comes through and cuts your bill so that your actual hour of prep in only billed at .5 hours
And you have no leverage or recourse because the insurance company can always pull the account and find another firm.
It's a cold world out here for the defense guys. I can't tell you how many motion and order to substitute counsel I get in my cases
And you have no leverage or recourse because the insurance company can always pull the account and find another firm.
It's a cold world out here for the defense guys. I can't tell you how many motion and order to substitute counsel I get in my cases
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:13 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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??
They probably have to work 60-80 to bill 40
Again, that's why weekend work is expected/required.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:14 pm to Jim Smith
Preis Roy is now just Preis PLC and they're pretty notorious for being every bad stereotype of civil defense work . Lane Roy was at Brown Sims last I had a case against him.
They have a few good lawyers though.
. Lane Roy was at Brown Sims last I had a case against him. They have a few good lawyers though.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:15 pm to boosiebadazz
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And you bill and hour or whatever for preparing for the deposition adn then the billable review company hired by your client, the insurance company, comes through and cuts your bill so that your actual hour of prep in only billed at .5 hours
And you have no leverage or recourse because the insurance company can always pull the account and find another firm.
It's a cold world out here for the defense guys. I can't tell you how many motion and order to substitute counsel I get in my cases
Yeah, but not all defense work is casualty work. Sure, casualty work now is tough unless you are doing casualty work for a big firm.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:16 pm to boosiebadazz
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Preis Roy is now just Preis PLC and they're pretty notorious for being every bad stereotype of civil defense work . Lane Roy was at Brown Sims last I had a case against him.
They have a few good lawyers though.
Yeah, they literally required about 2300 billable hours. Unreal shite.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:16 pm to Jim Smith
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Yeah, but not all defense work is casualty work. Sure, casualty work now is tough unless you are doing casualty work for a big firm.
True, but it's my only exposure to it being a PI guy, and I am in no way envious of what some of those dudes have to do.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:16 pm to Jim Smith
Maybe if you spent less time on TD you could bill for this hour and not have to work Saturday....
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