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re: First non-trial vaccinination in western world: 90 YO maggie keenan from the UK
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:41 pm to Salmon
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:41 pm to Salmon
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scruffy
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point of authority
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fear mongering
I don't think he's fear mongering. He's not spouting silly Bill Gates shite.
He's acknowledging that the vaccine is...
Rushed
New strategy
Likely not worth risk to young healthy ppl.
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:42 pm to Salmon
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With as much fear mongering about the vaccine there is out there, its frustrating to see someone in the medical field play into that affirmation.
Someone in the medical field exercising caution with a new vaccine, a new TYPE of vaccine makes me feel like I'm ok to be cautious as well. So I for one appreciate his answer.
He said for HIM he won't take the chance BUT that's him .. he answered my question re: my parents with basically saying they're at risk, they should.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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but a 90 year old woman who would break a hip after a bout of diarrhea has no qualms at all.
many of you should feel bad. scared of a vaccine/shot? lmao. does your wife know about your phobia? lmao
Your wife knows of my phobia of condom usage
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:43 pm to Privateer 2007
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Not for healthy people
How do we know though? Applying your logic, we can't possibly know yet.
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The UK just paid out huge sums for an experimental vaccine, I think SARS that causes permanent neurological issues.
statistical outliers
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I'd recommend to old ppl or high-risk ppl. But, for healthy people it makes no sense.
You were saying that the only way to stop the spread is through population immunity in a thread earlier, but are now saying it makes no sense to achieve that through a vaccine?
I don't understand you people sometimes.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:43 pm to Scruffy
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I work in an ER.
I don’t talk about, discuss, or give vaccines (outside of tetanus post-trauma).
I merely ask if the children
ER .. Childred .. lol I keep picturing you as Doug Ross on ER.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:44 pm to Privateer 2007
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I don't think he's fear mongering. He's not spouting silly Bill Gates shite.
He's acknowledging that the vaccine is...
Rushed
New strategy
Likely not worth risk to young healthy ppl.
Completely agree with this -- you said it better than I did.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:45 pm to Salmon
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This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:45 pm to Privateer 2007
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Rushed
It wasn't rushed. We have been studying mRNA vaccines for decades.
We have never allocated the amount of resources to one vaccine as this one.
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New strategy
It isn't new. We have been studying it for decades.
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Likely not worth risk to young healthy ppl.
If y'all want to achieve herd immunity, its worth the risk.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:47 pm to Scruffy
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Your stance is essentially that no questions or concerns should be voiced then.
Voice your concerns, but back those concerns up with something of substance.
Not "well we don't know the long term side effects", which could be applied to literally everything that has been developed in the last decade.
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Take the information you are given and use it how you want to.
Completely agree.
The problem is people don't look for information.
They look for affirmation.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:47 pm to Salmon
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only way to stop virus is population immunity
Population immunity can be achieved through a combo of natural infections and vaccinations.
This virus won't just "stop" unless it mutated away like SARS.
It's gonna be around in small numbers for a decade or more.
Ppl got polio in the US into the late 70s.
Who gives a shite if people under 50 get the Rona? It's on par with driving a vehicle for a year in terms of risk. If you immunize the unhealthy amongst sub 50 y.o. population that mortality rate will further crater.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:50 pm to Privateer 2007
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Population immunity can be achieved through a combo of natural infections and vaccinations.
Yeah. No shite. Guess what demographics make up the largest % of the population though? The people that are not high risk to COVID.
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Who gives a shite if people under 50 get the Rona? It's on par with driving a vehicle for a year in terms of risk.
You are missing the point.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 2:54 pm to Salmon
This virus is quite dastardly. Stay safe out there baws!
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why waste a dose on a 90 year old?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:38 pm to Salmon
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It wasn't rushed. We have been studying mRNA vaccines for decades
The ‘technology’ for mRNA has been around since 1989 - it was never approved before because of problems with efficacy.
Covid-19 is the new improved corona virus that was discovered in the last quarter of 2019, some crazy killing machine of a coronavirus.
So the technology that is used for the Covid vaccine is not rushed - but the vaccine itself is.
You throw millions of dollars at a pharmaceutical company and they will give you what you want.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well Maggie can’t really leave the nursing home so I’m sure she doesn’t care if Bill Gates has a tracking device in her.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:42 pm to GreenRockTiger
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So the technology that is used for the Covid vaccine is not rushed - but the vaccine itself is.
The process/mechanism is the same though. Its not like they went in blind.
We have been researching mRNA vaccines for decades, as well as researching them specifically for coronaviruses, such SARS.
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You throw millions of dollars at a pharmaceutical company and they will give you what you want.
Should we also ignore the massive liability these companies are accepting?
Y'all make it seem as though they are carelessly throwing these vaccines out there with no consequences if they frick people up.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:43 pm to Scruffy
Why did Scruffy erase all his posts?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:44 pm to WaWaWeeWa
damn...I didn't mean to shame him into deleting his posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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but a 90 year old woman who would break a hip after a bout of diarrhea has no qualms at all.
What’s the risk of a fricking 90 year old taking it?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 3:51 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Not a joke: the 2nd person to receive the vaccine is named William Shakespeare
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