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Financing is OOC

Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29254 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:37 pm
We're at the beach for the weekend and wife was asking how so many people have nice boats.



$23k down and $1,600 for 20 years for a 27 ft center console.

Good Lord people are stupid.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84995 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:39 pm to
Would you be upset with 6.5% return over 20 years? Do you think you can do better? Serious questions.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84995 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:47 pm to
Fwiw, your complaint should be focused on the actual price, not the financing. $230k is the bigger problem.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4091 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:51 pm to
Market is going to be flooded with so much of this underwater garbage in the near future it isn’t going to be funny.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55670 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Market is going to be flooded with so much of this underwater garbage in the near future
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78686 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:58 pm to
LOl. Idiots. My 20 year boat note isn't a dime over $1500 a month. And the second mortgage I took out for the down payment can't be more than 5%. Morans.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22908 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:11 pm to
Good fricking god.

230k.

And chances are if you don't realize 1600 a month for 20 years for a depreciating asset is a stupid idea, then you're probably too stupid to realize the yearly maintenance on that is going to be north of $1200 and its going to cost $500 to fill up the tank.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:13 pm to
Why the hell would you want a black boat? That bitch is gonna get hot as a mofo out there on the lake.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2945 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:18 pm to
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Why the hell would you want a black boat? That bitch is gonna get hot as a mofo out there on the lake.
because it's gonna look great with white oakleys
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:19 pm to
What does a boat like that depreciate?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63395 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:20 pm to
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Market is going to be flooded with so much of this underwater garbage in the near future it isn’t going to be funny.


You can't throw a stone and miss a boat for sale for pennies here on the Coast.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9652 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:20 pm to
don't forget the $75k truck to pull the thing.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:21 pm to
I didn't think this type of boat financing was that new.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84995 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:23 pm to
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And chances are if you don't realize 1600 a month for 20 years for a depreciating asset is a stupid idea,


Can we please, for once, stop acting like being a depreciating asset actually matters?

Financing or not financing is about opportunity costs and that's that. It's about what else you can do with the money. What you're actually buying doesn't really impact the decision of financing or not.

Put it this way - if you have the ability to pay cash or finance $230k over 20 years @ 6.5%, whether you're buying a boat or Amazon stock doesn't really matter.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2945 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:24 pm to
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What does a boat like that depreciate?
I don't know but i'm willing to bet 50% in the first 18 months or so. I don't have a problem with someone financing a toy for a hobby as long as they take care of everything else including funding retirement, emergency fund etc. The problem is the depreciation and being upside down so much so fast. You'd need a 100k down payment to be not buried. At that point just buy one 18 months old with cash.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:24 pm to
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Good Lord people are stupid.


Keeping up with the Jones's is serious bidness.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84995 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:26 pm to
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What does a boat like that depreciate?


It's the engine(s) that really depreciate. A well taken care of 10 year old fiberglass boat won't be much cheaper than a new one if they've both got brand new outboards on them.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:29 pm to
It fricking matters because 4% on a house with land translates to less of a true cost because unless you live in BR, you'll sell it for more than you bought it for 10 years later.

6% on a fricking 230k boat you're going to sell for 70k less 5 years later means you can tack on 14k/year in addition to the interest your dumbass agreed to pay.

You're fricking stupid if you think 4% on a loan for Amazon stock and 4% on a boat loan are financially equivalent
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8149 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:29 pm to
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You can't throw a stone and miss a boat for sale for pennies here on the Coast.

The two happiest days in a boat owner’s life is the day he buys it and the day he sells it.
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