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Final Bill dispute with a Contractor (Plumber)
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:31 pm
I have a rental home that needed pretty extensive plumbing work and the plumber I hired gave me a $6200 estimate. As the job progressed, more work was in needed and I agreed verbally to an additional $2000. When the job was finished, the plumber presented me with a final invoice of $10,380. I questioned him on it and he simply says that the materials and labor added up to more than he expected, but that his invoice is accurate and he wants full payment. He provided me with a breakdown of his and his employees labor and a material list, but I have no way to verify the accuracy of his labor and most of the materials are inside the walls and attic and I cannot confirm its accuracy.
I offered him $9000, but he wants the whole amount.
I think he is trying to pull one over on me, but I don’t want to risk a lien being placed in the house.
Should I continue to challenge him, continue to negotiate with him, or simply send him a check for the original $8200. Or, should I consult an attorney?
Thanks…
I offered him $9000, but he wants the whole amount.
I think he is trying to pull one over on me, but I don’t want to risk a lien being placed in the house.
Should I continue to challenge him, continue to negotiate with him, or simply send him a check for the original $8200. Or, should I consult an attorney?
Thanks…
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:34 pm to Skippy1013
What’s the paperwork for the estimate say? Anything else in writing?
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:37 pm to Skippy1013
I’d push back. I understand things can change, but you better communicate that, especially if it already increased 2k.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:38 pm to Skippy1013
Sounds like all you should owe him is $8,200 if this was firm price work.
In the future, put changes in writing and stipulate in the original estimate that all changed work must be approved in writing.
How much do you value the relationship with this guy and has he done work in the past for you? Any chance of needing future repairs or warranty on the work in place?
You can bond off the lien and sounds like you would win in small claims court based on the evidence you have.
Your call.
In the future, put changes in writing and stipulate in the original estimate that all changed work must be approved in writing.
How much do you value the relationship with this guy and has he done work in the past for you? Any chance of needing future repairs or warranty on the work in place?
You can bond off the lien and sounds like you would win in small claims court based on the evidence you have.
Your call.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:39 pm to Skippy1013
verbal agreements are often insufficient to support a lien on a home
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:40 pm to Skippy1013
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verbally to an additional $2000.
How these people get through the world without tripping over themselves all the time is beyond me.
Always a contract. Always payment terms. Always scope and schedule. Always have any agreements to change orders added to the contract.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:40 pm to Skippy1013
shite like this is why Im glad Jeff Landry and the state is making it easier to become a licensed plumber. We need more competition in plumbing and electrical trades. They all bill like they are performing brain surgery.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 5:53 pm to stout
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They all bill like they are performing brain surgery.
How the frick else are they gonna make $1 million a year without going to college?
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:07 pm to Obtuse1
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How the frick else are they gonna make $1 million a year without going to college?
There are only 3 things you really need to know to be a plumber
shite flows downhill
Never chew on your fingernails
Payday is on Friday
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:10 pm to stout
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shite flows uphill Never chew on your fingernails Payday is on Friday
Hope u aren’t a plumber
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:13 pm to Skippy1013
If cost and time was increasing to where it went up another $2K, then he should have told you. I wouldn’t have gone over $8200 but could have met halfway after a few days of back and forth. I wouldn’t budge
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:14 pm to BRVMAX
lol Yea I fricked the uphill part up
And FWIW I have plumbed plenty of houses. Just moved fixtures in one a few weeks ago to enlarge the shower and relocate a double vanity.
Basic plumbing is easy. Especially with PEX and the modern tools. I still did some pipe sweating on this one, though.
And FWIW I have plumbed plenty of houses. Just moved fixtures in one a few weeks ago to enlarge the shower and relocate a double vanity.
Basic plumbing is easy. Especially with PEX and the modern tools. I still did some pipe sweating on this one, though.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:14 pm to stout
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shite flows downhill
That was a quick edit lol
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:20 pm to Skippy1013
If he didn’t like 9000 and the only thing in writing anywhere was 6200, that would be my next offer.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:34 pm to Skippy1013
There are two opposing thoughts. He quoted 6200 and you agreed to 2000 additional with no other conversation. You certainly have a legit concern. Counter to that is, did he genuinely perform the additional work and was it necessary. I personally would write the check for the full boat and never call the guy again. In the future, be clear with any trades that you will only pay based on written agreement.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:39 pm to Skippy1013
My next offer would be the $8200, and tell him if he declines, the final offer will be $6200, the amount he could prove in court.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:50 pm to Skippy1013
Report him to the licensing board before he files the lien. Make sure to send any texts, emails or notes from calls or in person meetings. Most of these guys are borderline retarded so if you look like you have your shite together they probably side with you.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:52 pm to stout
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There are only 3 things you really need to know to be a plumber
You forgot #4
They know they rough-in first, so they don't have to think and just use all the easy void and wall space, leaving HVAC and finally electrical scratching their heads trying to figure out how to run their shite and stay within code.
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:56 pm to Skippy1013
I'm a manager for a HVAC/Plumbing company. We give written estimates and the client signs them. If we miscalculated labor or materials that's on us. Once both parties agreed to the price it's a done deal.
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