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Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:35 am to mpar98
This is a depressing thread.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:35 am to Wind
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If we are in a committed relationship for 30 years, we raise kids for 20 of that and we treat each other with love and respect and care for our kids as any married couple would, why does a court document make or break my parenting?
It doesn't.
But statistically, you are more likely to break up more than a married couple.
Marriage puts that little extra will to stay in the relationship. That is the "security" part.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:35 am to mpar98
Marriage is dumb and more times than not ends poorly. Will never do it but good luck to those clowns who did 
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:37 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Where are you getting this?
within his argument
religiousness decreases with higher SES status and education
marriage increases with higher SES and education
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:37 am to fr33manator
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When the coffers run out. When the debt comes due. When the fighting starts. Once civility begins to break down and the thin veneer of society shatters the world will begin its swift return to the old ways. Blood and fire shall be the order of the day. Only power shall prevail.
Well then
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:38 am to kywildcatfanone
Ruined by the most selfish generation ever, the boomers
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:38 am to Salmon
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are they getting married more? are just staying the same?
more as a share of marriages
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
White Catholic guy here in the 75k-100k bracket.
No intentions of getting married anytime soon.
No intentions of getting married anytime soon.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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more as a share of marriages
% is still decreasing though
why do you think that is?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:41 am to Wind
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You're going to be "pissed"
I'm not going to be pissed, but you sure as hell would be when probate time comes around. Don't get mad, get even.
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from a stable family
Congratulations.
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that only benefit her
You forgot to add selfish to your list of qualifications.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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within his argument
religiousness decreases with higher SES status and education
I think your statement assumes overlap that the statistics do not necessarily bear out.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:43 am to Salmon
100 things
feminist ideals proliferating into the urban mindset of many higher SES women
more rational decision making (if you don't have kids, no reason for a higher SES male to get married)
religious factors do play a role (i just don't think they're a major part)
feminist ideals proliferating into the urban mindset of many higher SES women
more rational decision making (if you don't have kids, no reason for a higher SES male to get married)
religious factors do play a role (i just don't think they're a major part)
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:44 am to Muice
Why do you care. Why doesn't your daughter just go find somebody else if it's such a raw deal for her?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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feminist ideals proliferating into the urban mindset of many higher SES women
more rational decision making (if you don't have kids, no reason for a higher SES male to get married)
see I just think these are byproducts of a less religious society
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:45 am to Muice
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You forgot to add selfish to your list of qualifications.
Clear to anyone reading this thread the only person who is "selfish" is you.
You'd rather your daughter be with some good old 'baw who will marry her, spray in them guts and have her pump out a couple of children like Jesus wants rather than an educated, modern man who will take care of and respect her.
Done responding to you.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:47 am to Wind
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You'd rather your daughter be with some good old 'baw who will marry her, spray in them guts and have her pump out a couple of children like Jesus wants rather than an educated, modern man who will take care of and respect her.
I'd rather my daughter be with a man that understands the benefits of marriage and be more concerned with those implications than the implications of the marriage failing
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 10:48 am
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:50 am to Wind
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take care of and respect her
When it all comes down to it you're right. Thats all that matters. I would only prefer the other option.
There's also that whole huge savings I get by not having to pay for a wedding in your case, so that is a pro.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:50 am to Wind
quote:these false dichotomies that always come up in threads about marriage, family, and relationships are so fricking stupid.
You'd rather your daughter be with some good old 'baw who will marry her, spray in them guts and have her pump out a couple of children like Jesus wants rather than an educated, modern man who will take care of and respect her.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 11:22 am to Salmon
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If you don't want kids, I see no reason to get married, other than religious reasons.
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