re: Fertility rate: 'Jaw-dropping' global crash in children being born

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Difficult but not imposible.

Tax and cultural incentives could fix this within a generation, setting aside the abortion issue which would flip this statistic on its head within a few years (600k+ babies lost in 2016 alone...).

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Name a country where they were able to incentivize their way to a TFR above 2.1. Again Sweden is the best example, and they’ve stalled at just below replacement. This method has been tried repeatedly in different forms, and none have seen replacement rates reached.

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Name a country where they were able to incentivize their way to a TFR above 2.1. Again Sweden is the best example, and they’ve stalled at just below replacement. This method has been tried repeatedly in different forms, and none have seen replacement rates reached.

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How long have these efforts been in place?

I imagine it occurs over a 25 to 40 year window instead of 5 to 10, if it can be done.

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Their birth rate is about 5 per woman

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No it isn’t. It might have been more true towards the middle of the last century, but like every country that reaches a measure of development, they’ve seen precipitous drops in TFR. Even in places in Africa with high TFRs are at rates below what the TFRs were for places like Iran and Saudi Arabia in the 1950s, where it was upwards of 7. Now the TFR of both of those countries hovers around 2.2.

It used to be 8 not long ago. They will catch up to the rest of us. And they won’t dominate the world, there are virtually no Muslims in the Americas, east Asia and Australia, and they are single digits in Europe. They seem to have gotten a grip on the whole refugee thing thank goodness.

Cost too damn much to have kids these days. Back in the day all you had to do was frick and then you make those mongrels work the farm.

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Smart people realized having little cuunts running around was a waste of all kinds of time and resources.

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Too bad your mom didn’t think that way.

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How long have these efforts been in place?

I imagine it occurs over a 25 to 40 year window instead of 5 to 10, if it can be done

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Japan started a program in 1994. Sweden started one in the late 90s or early noughties. The Japanese method hasn’t produced results, while Sweden has seen its rates raise from 1.5 to 1.85. Hungary started a measure around 2011 to increase births, and they’ve successfully gotten to 1.6, by 2018 if I recall, from a low of 1.2 in the late 90s. If the rate of the increase of births held steady between 2012 and 2018, they would require another 40 years of births outpacing deaths to reach replacement. I did the math in a thread once, but I calculated that they would need 40% births per month to reach replacement. That is an incredibly difficult task to undertake.

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crazy4lsu

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Good stuff

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've always thought it strange about so many DINKs speaking about not being able to afford kids, wanting to save up enough,etc. while single mom in the government housing is having all the babies she can

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What's so strange about paid-for votes?

It’s pretty simple really....
1. Raising children is getting more and more expensive while the cost of living is skyrocketing while pay is not keeping up
2. We are not a labor rich society anymore. Don’t need masses of people in the corn fields or factories anymore.
3. Fewer and fewer women want to have sex because “headaches”.