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re: FedGov weighs 21% oil profit tax....to blunt inflation.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:24 am to lake chuck fan
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:24 am to lake chuck fan
Wait what? Are you saying campaigning on destroying the Oil and Gas industry might cause said industry to be hesitant about making massive capital investments?
UNPOSSIBRUH!
UNPOSSIBRUH!
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:50 am to member12
why are democrats so fricking stupid?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:52 am to PureBlood
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why are democrats so fricking stupid?
Most are economic illiterates. Social too. Whats up to most is down to them.
Mental illness warps perception.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:57 am to Centinel
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This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 9:25 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Most are economic illiterates.
I can't tell if they actually are or if they think their constituents are too stupid to question them on it.
They clearly want to kill oil and gas. Why not just come out and say it like Biden did instead of pretending that these tactics are to fight inflation.
If you have to lie to your constituency, you should probably not be in office.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:01 am to dewster
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I can't tell if they actually are or if they think their constituents are too stupid to question them on it.
At the top, they understand. The rank and file don't. The idiocy is self perpetuating.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:08 am to cahoots
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Of course it has an impact but it doesn't cause prices at the pump to double. You will never convince me that prices would be at a reasonable level if only Biden hadn't campaigned on alternative energy and hadn't paused new leases on federal land. It just doesn't make any sense. it's clearly not the dominant factor in today's price
While this is absolutely true, it does no good to engage right wingers on this point. They believe that if Biden said something two and a half years ago at a campaign speech in Poukeepsie, New York, that somehow that has caused a doubling in diesel prices two and a half years later. It's the magical powers of Democrats. Meanwhile, they will cling to the idea that it never mattered what Trump said because "he just talks like that--isn't it refreshing?"
The magical Democrat theory does not explain why gas is more than $10 a gallon in England or why inflation is almost even in continental Europe as it is here, despite the complete absence of Biden and Democrats.
But that conflicts with the narrative so they will not entertain the reality that there are worldwide economic forces at play.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:11 am to TBoy
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 9:26 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:37 am to cahoots
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if only Biden hadn't campaigned on alternative energy and hadn't paused new leases on federal land
The supply of oil that we are missing out on today because of this absolutely impacts pricing of the commodity. He did this in January 2021.
And we are doing this for global warming while also begging Venezuela for oil? This is not Putin’s price hike. This is on Biden and his handlers. That dipshit promised to forgive student loans, and instead he decided to wage war on oil and gas and absolutely screw consumers.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:43 am to cahoots
i get what you are saying about how this can’t 100% be Biden’s fault.
I would offer as a retort that the man has made crystal clear since his campaign began that he intends to rapidly transition from fossil fuels to alternative energy. Look at oil futures from 2015 til 2020, fairly stable. Then starting in November of 2021 it’s done nothing but rise. Despite what lowTBoy says, he didn’t just mention it once in a campaign rally, but multiple multiple times. And whether it’s him, his administration, or a combination along with climate activists. Cancelling keystone, increasing lease permit times, cancelling leases, increasing ESG board members on O&G boards, forcing emissions regulations that O&G companies have to play catch up with, and the Blackrock/Vanguard investment companies outright saying they will not loan money to the O&G corporations. All of this has caused problems for the O&G majors and certainly little brothers, there’s no denying that. You pair this with a demand we cannot keep up with and a global product instability. You get to where we are at.
As a spin-off discussion, sort along the lines of your post. How much of the blame does Biden get vs what he deserves? Because, i remember how the COVID pandemic, “increase in white nationalism”, increase in hate crimes, and January 6th were all completely blamed on President Trump by the media, social media, and posters here on this website.
See my point? If we saddle one president with 100% of the blame for things definitely not under his control, why does Biden only get a smidgen of blame by the media, on social media, and by…..certain posters here for gas prices, the economy woes, inflation, poor foreign policy, etc, etc.
I would offer as a retort that the man has made crystal clear since his campaign began that he intends to rapidly transition from fossil fuels to alternative energy. Look at oil futures from 2015 til 2020, fairly stable. Then starting in November of 2021 it’s done nothing but rise. Despite what lowTBoy says, he didn’t just mention it once in a campaign rally, but multiple multiple times. And whether it’s him, his administration, or a combination along with climate activists. Cancelling keystone, increasing lease permit times, cancelling leases, increasing ESG board members on O&G boards, forcing emissions regulations that O&G companies have to play catch up with, and the Blackrock/Vanguard investment companies outright saying they will not loan money to the O&G corporations. All of this has caused problems for the O&G majors and certainly little brothers, there’s no denying that. You pair this with a demand we cannot keep up with and a global product instability. You get to where we are at.
As a spin-off discussion, sort along the lines of your post. How much of the blame does Biden get vs what he deserves? Because, i remember how the COVID pandemic, “increase in white nationalism”, increase in hate crimes, and January 6th were all completely blamed on President Trump by the media, social media, and posters here on this website.
See my point? If we saddle one president with 100% of the blame for things definitely not under his control, why does Biden only get a smidgen of blame by the media, on social media, and by…..certain posters here for gas prices, the economy woes, inflation, poor foreign policy, etc, etc.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 10:17 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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At the top, they understand. The rank and file don't. The idiocy is self perpetuating.
AOC doesn’t know. Some of the others might.
But yeah it’s a full on Brawndo party for their supporters.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:53 am to goofball
Oil profits ARE up bc of the conditions he created! Oil companies haven't changed much in the way the operate but the conditions/environment that potato has set has caused the futures to jump. The same acts under different conditions lead to different outcomes. Like making red beans in SLA Vs the same recipe in Denver. Actions are the same conditions are different and culminates in a different result...shitty beans
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:40 am to Klark Kent
What right wingers fail to acknowledge is that when oil prices collapsed during the Covid pandemic, Washington took international steps to reduce the supply of oil on the world market to push prices of oil and gas higher to increase profits during the downturn.
When demand came back on, and it came back on quickly, production was still reduced, leading to shocks in the market due to depressed supply.
Biden has requested that world producers increase supply. Right wingers have attacked him for that.
The graphic below is Biden securing agreements to reduce world supply in 2020 to set the stage for the current price increases.

When demand came back on, and it came back on quickly, production was still reduced, leading to shocks in the market due to depressed supply.
Biden has requested that world producers increase supply. Right wingers have attacked him for that.
The graphic below is Biden securing agreements to reduce world supply in 2020 to set the stage for the current price increases.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:42 am to TBoy
and now your boy is graveling at the feet at the Saudi princes again. After blasting them for the same reason a few weeks back. Brilliant! Thanks lowT!
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:46 am to TBoy
Could you imagine if they hadn't? How many more refineries and drilling rigs would be idle under those prices? Then fast forward to today and the issue is exponentially worse. Then this guy promises to end the very industry that he needs to be strong on top of calling the people he is going to beg to increase a pariah.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:50 am to nated14
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Then this guy promises to end the very industry that he needs to be strong on top of calling the people he is going to beg to increase a pariah.
Clown world. But that's where we are now.
Because no one in our media asks questions when these idiots make these decisions. And because they have no idea what its like in the real world.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:53 am to TBoy
You think Saudi or VZ oil is cleaner than US O&G? Do you think its helping the environment to ask for more foreign oil while discouraging domestic production? Newsflash: its not. And its dumb and you voted for this tard.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:05 am to lsugradman
FACT - Gulf of Mexico oil is the "cleanest". something something federal waters.... I agree we should move toward more renewables but that is a 30 year plan. These assholes pander to the uninformed who think we can get there in 4.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:08 am to nated14
my favorite is the fact that they think that at some point we can just totally stop drilling for fossil fuels. Once we reach green energy utopia, we won’t need the endless amount of lubes, chemicals, and plastics derived from fossil fuels.
OR pretending that China, Russia, India, and Africa give a single frick about climate change or our green energy initiatives.
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