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re: Fear Of Flying Subreddit - What's the OT's position?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:40 am to Odysseus32
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:40 am to Odysseus32
I hate it. If I could drive, I'd be perfectly fine with it.
Being 100% at the mercy of so many people who make sure that winged beer can gets where its going in one piece makes me super nervous. Not having any situational awareness whatsoever makes me nervous.
Not to mention the whole experience of it being like cattle at a stockyard being awful as well....
If it's a 12-14 hour drive or shorter, I'm driving.
Being 100% at the mercy of so many people who make sure that winged beer can gets where its going in one piece makes me super nervous. Not having any situational awareness whatsoever makes me nervous.
Not to mention the whole experience of it being like cattle at a stockyard being awful as well....
If it's a 12-14 hour drive or shorter, I'm driving.
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:40 am to lsupride87
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Did those people talk about the 100s of wrecks yesterday that killed people?
I think most of the people on that subreddit understand their fear is irrational, which is why they are trying to overcome it.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:42 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Surviving or it happening. I’d say low, and extremely low
Happening twice.
The post is a "joke" I've used ever since I took statistics. Both are independent events. One has no bearing on the other. It plays on people lack of understating of probability and outcome.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:45 am to Odysseus32
Definitely a separation between normal, logical people and autistic over emotionals.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:49 am to Lonnie Utah
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I've been in a (private) plane crash and survived. What the odds of it happening twice?
What caused the plane to crash?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:50 am to Odysseus32
Fear of flying is obviously an illogical, emotional thing if you look at the numbers, but humans are notoriously illogical so no surprise there.
As someone who is an extremely nervous flyer I think what makes it the most scary is the feeling of vulnerability and helplessness. It's true there are way more fatalities in car driving but there are also a gazillion minor accidents with little to no injuries.
If something goes wrong on a plane it's basically guaranteed every single person is gonna die extremely violently.
Being in a situation where that can happen at any second is very unnerving.
As someone who is an extremely nervous flyer I think what makes it the most scary is the feeling of vulnerability and helplessness. It's true there are way more fatalities in car driving but there are also a gazillion minor accidents with little to no injuries.
If something goes wrong on a plane it's basically guaranteed every single person is gonna die extremely violently.
Being in a situation where that can happen at any second is very unnerving.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:50 am to holdmuh keystonelite
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Something about being in control for me and being on the ground makes driving fine even knowing there is a greater risk.
For drives 8 hours and under I drive rather than fly because of the hassle of airports and the fact of what you just mentioned, control of the travel.
It’s not because of any nerves I have about flying.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:52 am to holdmuh keystonelite
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Something about being in control for me and being on the ground makes driving fine even knowing there is a greater risk.
Is driving really a greater risk? This never gets questioned. How many man-hours are spent in a year in this country in a car vs airplane? What's the man hours per fatality ratio?
And there's the whole surviving a plane crash vs surviving a car crash thing.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:54 am to Jack Daniel
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Middle East??
Why, because of the airlines that spend $$$$ and hire British pilots? Or because of stray SAM missiles as you overfly Baku or Tehran?
If an airline is a member of Star Alliance, OneWorld, Skyteam, or is permitted to operate in the US or other major European countries, no factor. If it's the daily local between Nairobi and Cape Town, eh...
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:55 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Is driving really a greater risk?
Yes
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:55 am to Oilfieldbiology
Not to mention, the door to door travel time when flying is a fricking long time even for relatively short flights.
Drive to airport, park, security, wait, load plane, wait, fly, wait, get rental, drive to hotel. It takes a damn long time and depending on your proximity to a major airport, can very often be as long or longer than an 8 hour day from leaving house to reaching hotel.
Throw in one delay and the timing can get really wild.
Drive to airport, park, security, wait, load plane, wait, fly, wait, get rental, drive to hotel. It takes a damn long time and depending on your proximity to a major airport, can very often be as long or longer than an 8 hour day from leaving house to reaching hotel.
Throw in one delay and the timing can get really wild.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:55 am to Odysseus32
First commercial crash in 15 years...millions of fights flown...now tell me about your next car ride in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
Has there ever been a reputable study in the above questions (man-hours spent on the road vs in the air)?
Genuinely curious.
Genuinely curious.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:56 am to Odysseus32
OP seems to be afraid of a lot of things by posting history
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:57 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Is driving really a greater risk?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:57 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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What caused the plane to crash?
Mechanical malfunction. The plane had just undergone it's annual inspection and the mechanic ('s 18 year old uncertified son) did not correctly reconnect some hydraulic lines. They came off right before take-off spraying hydraulic fluid on the exhaust manifold. The led the pilots to believe they had an inflight fire. They came around to bring the plane back in for a landing. When they did, there was no hydraulic pressure to cycle the landing gear (the hand pump didn't work either). "Landed" gear up and skidded down the runway for a long way.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 7:58 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:57 am to Ingeniero
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Like most of reddit, mental illness and autism
You should read the "fednews" section or Reddit, the absolute dumbest and weakest people on the planet.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:58 am to Odysseus32
I’ve taken hundreds of flights and though I’m never nervous, I have jitters at takeoff from watching too many plane crash documentaries and having a recurring dream about being in a plane crash for 30+ years. I think about dying before every flight and make sure to send the I love you messages every time.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:59 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
For me, I know there is virtually zero chance of me dying in the air. But, my roller coaster tolerance level tops out at the Seven Dwarves ride at Disney. Hence the creative ways of smuggling alcohol into the airport and the plane.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:01 am to Odysseus32
I'm not afraid of flying, but I do get a little Closter phobic when I am assigned a middle seat. I can't stand airports or the unreliability of planes though, so I tend to drive if I can.Having a flight delayed or canceled altogether is a bitch.
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