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re: FDR was an awful president and MacArthur was an awful general.
Posted on 10/28/21 at 8:37 am to Cosmo
Posted on 10/28/21 at 8:37 am to Cosmo
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FDR and LBJ are most responsible for todays social issues
LBJ gets a ton of blame here and it is deserved but almost everyone gives JFK a pass when he deserves just as much blame. He laid the ground that allowed LBJ to pull off the bullshite he did.
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Posted on 10/28/21 at 8:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Communists and socialists.
No one in their right mind would agree.
Exactly.
Posted on 10/28/21 at 8:57 am to michael corleone
quote:Evidence exists Japan was still receiving oil shipments from California during the embargo. "Day of Deceit".
I think FDR and State Dept did not realize that the oil embargo forced Japan to commit to war.
Posted on 10/28/21 at 9:34 am to Cosmo
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FDR and LBJ are most responsible for todays social issues
Facts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 9:50 am to jscrims
FDR did nothing for the economy, except enter into WWII.
The New Deal accomplished nothing of note, outside of giving socialists some sort of perceived precedent for ending private industry
The New Deal accomplished nothing of note, outside of giving socialists some sort of perceived precedent for ending private industry
Posted on 10/28/21 at 8:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Communists and socialists.
No one in their right mind would agree.
May be. But conservative policies were dead worldwide in the mid 1930s. It was only a question of what kind of economic intervention you were going to get. FDRs were a lot milder than some other possible alternatives. While western democracies were struggling, Germany and the USSR seemed to have the Depression licked. It was smoke and mirrors, but most people didn't recognize that. Factions in the United States were looking to authoritarian solutions on both the left and right for a way out of the Depression. Without the New Deal, we may have gotten one of them, or maybe just a quasi civil war, as splinter groups fought for their brand of dictatorship.
You can argue until the cows come home about whether Roosevelt's policies actually worked, whether they set us on a slippery slope, etc. That's not the point. The point is they prevented something much worse.
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